access wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 1:22 AMWho are these "people" that swap realms because of relics? That's not a thing, stop pretending it is.
Raunz wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 9:36 AMStill have no heard of a valid reason why there should be a timer other then "people will chase RP bonus"
About chasing RP bonus well Einsteins, if every one will be chasing the bonus like you claim would happen wont it just always balance itself out?
Let's be honest, do you really play the game to chase some X% bonus or do you play what you want so you can have fun?
Tree wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 1:50 PMNo, timer is needed for meaningful RvR and for exploit prevention.
12 hour already is extremely low, removing it will just turn this server more into an arcade quick PvP action game.
Dindelion wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 3:41 PMTree wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 1:50 PMNo, timer is needed for meaningful RvR and for exploit prevention.
12 hour already is extremely low, removing it will just turn this server more into an arcade quick PvP action game.
I'm sorry but are we playing the same game, on the same server ? The game already is a quick arcade pvp game lol, most of the action is in Emain, you run 2min you click and shoot, die, respawn and get back instantly into the arena that is Emain.
Have you seen what pvp event we got this week-end ? Do you think it promotes realm wide strategic play ?
I don't really know what people like you means with "meaningful RvR", because most of the BGs action in RvR is actually taking empty keeps.
Wake up, it's already counter strike.
Leandrys wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 5:31 PMDindelion wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 3:41 PMTree wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 1:50 PMNo, timer is needed for meaningful RvR and for exploit prevention.
12 hour already is extremely low, removing it will just turn this server more into an arcade quick PvP action game.
I'm sorry but are we playing the same game, on the same server ? The game already is a quick arcade pvp game lol, most of the action is in Emain, you run 2min you click and shoot, die, respawn and get back instantly into the arena that is Emain.
Have you seen what pvp event we got this week-end ? Do you think it promotes realm wide strategic play ?
I don't really know what people like you means with "meaningful RvR", because most of the BGs action in RvR is actually taking empty keeps.
Wake up, it's already counter strike.
Cause ofc, you wern't able to guess that event is some kind of alpha test for features of OF, did you ? OF who brings more strategic RvR and not clustered BG adventures 7/7 h24 for Alb and Mid.
Realm switch timer reaches its goal, not allowing realm switch, let's just try to avoid crap which destroyed Live and Uthgard.
Kampfar wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 4:16 PMIf there would be no timer, pretty sure staff would need at least 2 ppl just for ban all the ppl switch for insulting the others that added/ranaway/vanished etc etc ...
Dindelion wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 6:22 PMKinda funny you "attack" me whereas your post doesn't have anything to do with the realm timer nor with my post actually. Obv they are trying NF stuff, but you're just guessing (and I'm all for NF btw) but I think we won't have NF because 1/ devs said it would take months, 2/ Some people actually like OF. My take is we might get some updated keeps for OF, and that wouldn't change a damn thing about Emain. Anyway that's not even sure, you and I are just guessing about NF, my post was just facts about server's action nowadays.
A lot of people want to play multiple realms and while I can understand why having no realm timer can be bad, I don't understand why having a 1-2h timer would break anything.
Have you seen what pvp event we got this week-end ? Do you think it promotes realm wide strategic play ?
Leandrys wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 10:42 PMDindelion wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 6:22 PMKinda funny you "attack" me whereas your post doesn't have anything to do with the realm timer nor with my post actually. Obv they are trying NF stuff, but you're just guessing (and I'm all for NF btw) but I think we won't have NF because 1/ devs said it would take months, 2/ Some people actually like OF. My take is we might get some updated keeps for OF, and that wouldn't change a damn thing about Emain. Anyway that's not even sure, you and I are just guessing about NF, my post was just facts about server's action nowadays.
A lot of people want to play multiple realms and while I can understand why having no realm timer can be bad, I don't understand why having a 1-2h timer would break anything.
Yeah you're right, i'm so much out of topic when replying to this :Have you seen what pvp event we got this week-end ? Do you think it promotes realm wide strategic play ?
Well, bullseye, that was exactly the opposite of what you said. And if we have to debate about banes and boons of quick realm switch timer, i don't even need to talk about obvious abuses related to RP, spying (which allready happens atm tho) and co, nah, let's just remember the wonderful trashtalk we had on live and several shards when Cartman got P0wNd with his 10L+ SB by solo eld 2L7, and the hundreds of potential Cartmans we naturally have in game. No ty.
Leave one window open, a lot of people will enter, it's natural, there has to be limits. + You allready can play every realm, monday Alb, tuesday Hibernia, etc... So what's the point ? Why do you need to switch so much quickly ?
Lollie wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 5:30 AMLowering the realm timer would be one of those changes that wouldn't make anybody quit, but it might keep people from leaving the game and perhaps even entice other players back.
Druth wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 5:38 AMLollie wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 5:30 AMLowering the realm timer would be one of those changes that wouldn't make anybody quit, but it might keep people from leaving the game and perhaps even entice other players back.
Amazing research done there, it has it all. Guessing your questionnaire was done on you and maybe a few friends?
Lollie wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 5:49 AMDruth wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 5:38 AMLollie wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 5:30 AMLowering the realm timer would be one of those changes that wouldn't make anybody quit, but it might keep people from leaving the game and perhaps even entice other players back.
Amazing research done there, it has it all. Guessing your questionnaire was done on you and maybe a few friends?
Edited, happy now?
Druth wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 6:23 AM
No, only slightly less grumpy.
But yeah, my opinions are also just "imo". And that's what this boils down to, we have no knowledge on long term effects.
I think that the short term effects would be more action.
I think the long term effect would be dead server apart from the 3-5 8man groups using the server as an arena at different hours.
It looks like to me, that the people pushing for no realm timer are 8man guilds, and the people pushing to keep it are more casuals.
Imo, the future of the server lies with the casuals.
Anelyn77 wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 2:32 PMI think lowering the timer will help with more activity and peeps being interested in playing for longer periods.
Example: day with no raids, few guildies on, no serious groups forming in RvR, meanwhile other 2 realms run 2-3fgs in emain. What are you going to do? PvE? Level another toon? Play thid? Or you could hop on other 2 realms (4h minimum, IMHO 6h would be better) and level a toon there or check if your lvl 50 there can join a raid or keep take w/e.
We need to encourage people to play the game and stop thinking elitistic and selfish, it's a MMO, the more players interested and having fun (whatever they are doing) the better for the server and health of the community as a whole - IMHO.
Dindelion wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 3:41 PMTree wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 1:50 PMNo, timer is needed for meaningful RvR and for exploit prevention.
12 hour already is extremely low, removing it will just turn this server more into an arcade quick PvP action game.
I'm sorry but are we playing the same game, on the same server ? The game already is a quick arcade pvp game lol, most of the action is in Emain, you run 2min you click and shoot, die, respawn and get back instantly into the arena that is Emain.
Have you seen what pvp event we got this week-end ? Do you think it promotes realm wide strategic play ?
I don't really know what people like you means with "meaningful RvR", because most of the BGs action in RvR is actually taking empty keeps.
Wake up, it's already counter strike.
Raunz wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 8:47 AMI have hardly played the game after first month of launch so you are misinformed about both my play hours and have flawed view about the timer.
Raunz wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 8:47 AM
I have hardly played the game after first month of launch so you are misinformed about both my play hours and have flawed view about the timer.
Sepplord wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:15 AMRaunz wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 8:47 AMI have hardly played the game after first month of launch so you are misinformed about both my play hours and have flawed view about the timer.
https://herald.playphoenix.online/c/raunzlp
Yeah 200k RPs in the last 48hours is just screaming filthy casual
Druth wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:22 AMSepplord wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:15 AMRaunz wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 8:47 AMI have hardly played the game after first month of launch so you are misinformed about both my play hours and have flawed view about the timer.
https://herald.playphoenix.online/c/raunzlp
Yeah 200k RPs in the last 48hours is just screaming filthy casual
He managed 100k rps per day from launch and the first month, every day, on his menta.
Not sure what "casual" means anymore, but if that is what it means, then I guess when I say "casual" I mean "people who play less than 2 hours/day".
Druth wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:35 AMHad to look it up... casual = "relaxed and unconcerned"
So how much you play really doesn't matter in that regard, and since we have no idea how Raunz feels, we have no idea if he is casual or not.
Raunz wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 8:05 AMDruth wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 6:23 AM
No, only slightly less grumpy.
But yeah, my opinions are also just "imo". And that's what this boils down to, we have no knowledge on long term effects.
I think that the short term effects would be more action.
I think the long term effect would be dead server apart from the 3-5 8man groups using the server as an arena at different hours.
It looks like to me, that the people pushing for no realm timer are 8man guilds, and the people pushing to keep it are more casuals.
Imo, the future of the server lies with the casuals.
I'm a casual and i'm for the removal of timer.
MiNDmaZing wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:48 AMThe staff could be more flexible, why dont they test it for a week... for example giving hibs a porter to breif or lowering the realm switch timer to 1-2 Hours. If Its not working? ok change it back.
waffles8 wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 4:29 PMNo vote needed. Timer was a stupid idea to begin with. Lower it or remove it.A quarter of the population has already been banned for trying to circumvent it when it doesn’t negatively impact the game in any way. I don’t even bother playing anymore cause I have to plan my whole day in advance as to what I’m going to in game so I know what realm to log on. I’d play a lot more if I had the option to switch realms. This isn’t 2001, Phoenix needs to keep up with the times.
Sepplord wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 11:40 AMMiNDmaZing wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:48 AMThe staff could be more flexible, why dont they test it for a week... for example giving hibs a porter to breif or lowering the realm switch timer to 1-2 Hours. If Its not working? ok change it back.
History has shown that that just makes everyone mad. The ones that dislike it get mad when it is put in, the ones that like it get mad when it is put away.
Look at the last "porting in RvR"-event. In the end the population was split basically half/half and a compromise was found, that people from both sides got mad at. People still quote is as proof that devs do what they want because they didn't listen to the majority (because the vote was something like 51%/49% instead of a flat 50/50)
FUINY7 wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 5:14 PMSepplord wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 11:40 AMMiNDmaZing wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:48 AMThe staff could be more flexible, why dont they test it for a week... for example giving hibs a porter to breif or lowering the realm switch timer to 1-2 Hours. If Its not working? ok change it back.
History has shown that that just makes everyone mad. The ones that dislike it get mad when it is put in, the ones that like it get mad when it is put away.
Look at the last "porting in RvR"-event. In the end the population was split basically half/half and a compromise was found, that people from both sides got mad at. People still quote is as proof that devs do what they want because they didn't listen to the majority (because the vote was something like 51%/49% instead of a flat 50/50)
It's non correlated, you are talking about in-game feature, we are talking about ACCESSING the full game, you are making no point by bringing this.
And vote for timer was more like 80/20 in favor of no timer.
ps : today i was offered to play on mid for the incoming NA tournament, can't reroll since i'm on alb already, that doesn't make sense.
The Skies Asunder wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:25 PMThe timer is archaic, and unnecessary IMO. The more you limit people on how they want to enjoy the game, the less people will stay. I would certainly play more if I had the option of switching whenever I wanted. For the people arguing to keep the timer, trying to force people to to enjoy the game exactly how you do is not a good way to keep players around. More freedoms, please!
stinsfire wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:57 PMThe Skies Asunder wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:25 PMThe timer is archaic, and unnecessary IMO. The more you limit people on how they want to enjoy the game, the less people will stay. I would certainly play more if I had the option of switching whenever I wanted. For the people arguing to keep the timer, trying to force people to to enjoy the game exactly how you do is not a good way to keep players around. More freedoms, please!
You do realize the exact same thing can be said about you?
I would be fine with 6h timer but not less. I don't want to play wth realm hoppers with zero realm pride and loyality on this server. I am totally fine with 12 hours but could accept it being reduced to 6
The Skies Asunder wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 11:02 PMstinsfire wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:57 PMThe Skies Asunder wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:25 PMThe timer is archaic, and unnecessary IMO. The more you limit people on how they want to enjoy the game, the less people will stay. I would certainly play more if I had the option of switching whenever I wanted. For the people arguing to keep the timer, trying to force people to to enjoy the game exactly how you do is not a good way to keep players around. More freedoms, please!
You do realize the exact same thing can be said about you?
I would be fine with 6h timer but not less. I don't want to play wth realm hoppers with zero realm pride and loyality on this server. I am totally fine with 12 hours but could accept it being reduced to 6
No one is going to make you switch realms. My stance of allowing something, that will not change anything about the way that you personally play, is not the same as you imposing your own view of "realm pride" on people, and not allowing them to switch when they want to.
The people against a short timer are against it because of the influence it has on ingame behaviour....the two things are perfectly comparable....
i am a bit confused why you think it isn't correlated at all...
stinsfire wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 11:15 PMThe Skies Asunder wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 11:02 PMstinsfire wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2019 9:57 PMYou do realize the exact same thing can be said about you?
I would be fine with 6h timer but not less. I don't want to play wth realm hoppers with zero realm pride and loyality on this server. I am totally fine with 12 hours but could accept it being reduced to 6
No one is going to make you switch realms. My stance of allowing something, that will not change anything about the way that you personally play, is not the same as you imposing your own view of "realm pride" on people, and not allowing them to switch when they want to.
Let me quote someone else in this thread:The people against a short timer are against it because of the influence it has on ingame behaviour....the two things are perfectly comparable....
i am a bit confused why you think it isn't correlated at all...
So you would force me to play in a different environment that doesn't resemble daoc as I know it from classic live.
Raunz wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2019 5:01 AM"Environment that doesn't resemble..." Do we play the same same server? Nothing resembles classic daoc about this server, it's full custom. Not even sure what you talking about you are clearly trolling.
Sepplord wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2019 6:42 AMRaunz wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2019 5:01 AM"Environment that doesn't resemble..." Do we play the same same server? Nothing resembles classic daoc about this server, it's full custom. Not even sure what you talking about you are clearly trolling.
For someone trying so hard to not understand his point, you throw around the troll accusations pretty freely.
I wonder how long we will get to experience your wonderful comments this time before you go silent again for a few weeks/months just to emerge with new bullshit to entertain everyone
To the point.Sepplord wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2019 6:42 AMRaunz wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2019 5:01 AM"Environment that doesn't resemble..." Do we play the same same server? Nothing resembles classic daoc about this server, it's full custom. Not even sure what you talking about you are clearly trolling.
For someone trying so hard to not understand his point, you throw around the troll accusations pretty freely.
I wonder how long we will get to experience your wonderful comments this time before you go silent again for a few weeks/months just to emerge with new bullshit to entertain everyone
Raunz wrote: ↑Wed 29 May 2019 9:50 AMI gotta banned today from Phoenix discord for mentioning this thread, the abuse of power and cencorship is real if you have different view and voice your opinion. They do not listen to gamers who know every little aspect of the game and want help guide the ones in power to the right direction.
Raunz wrote: ↑Wed 29 May 2019 9:50 AMI gotta banned today from Phoenix discord for mentioning this thread, the abuse of power and cencorship is real if you have different view and voice your opinion. They do not listen to gamers who know every little aspect of the game and want help guide the ones in power to the right direction.
12.2 Public discussions about already enforced punishments are strictly forbidden in game, on forums and on discord.
Uthred
Raunz wrote: ↑Wed 29 May 2019 9:50 AMI gotta banned today from Phoenix discord for mentioning this thread, the abuse of power and cencorship is real if you have different view and voice your opinion. They do not listen to gamers who know every little aspect of the game and want help guide the ones in power to the right direction.
Sepplord wrote: ↑Wed 29 May 2019 11:42 AMhow is it basically a day?
you say yourself, after going to bed and waking up the next your need to wait a few hours... so it'S just a few hours in that case.
When switching to pay rent it is also onyl a single day: You sleep, wake up, after a few hours you switch pay rent and logg off. sleep again, wake up and should be able to play again. (i agree though that this is still a hassle just for paying rent...on the other hand though, do you really need to occupy the houseplot if you aren't even online ONCE in that realm for over 4weeks?)
karate wrote: ↑Wed 29 May 2019 2:01 PMI do think the varying standards for discord-bans is a problem depriving certain players of a chance to interact with the entire Phoenix community.
<3 to all
Uthred wrote: ↑Wed 29 May 2019 10:52 AMRaunz wrote: ↑Wed 29 May 2019 9:50 AMI gotta banned today from Phoenix discord for mentioning this thread, the abuse of power and cencorship is real if you have different view and voice your opinion. They do not listen to gamers who know every little aspect of the game and want help guide the ones in power to the right direction.
Pls dont spread false informations and lies. You didnt get banned for mentioning this thread. You had mentioned this thread multiple times on discord before. You got banned on discord because you were constantly trying to discuss this on discord, even though you got told multiple times to stop it as the discord is not for discussions, but to help players. This thread is the place to discuss this topic and not the Phoenix discord.
You were muted multiple times before on discord for insulting players and for not following the discord rules. We told you, after we removed the last mute, that you will get a ban on discord next time, if you dont follow the rules. You didnt want to listen, so you got your ban there. Gz on that.
Dont speak of censorship just because you think that you are above the rules of this server and that they are not valid for you. You are on Phoenix a very long time and you know exactly that this would happen. So please stop trying to play the "im innocent and the GMs abuse their power" card.
Stay on topic, thx.
This is a flat out lie!Druth wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 7:22 AMIn fact, freeshard/Live that has long timer seems to do better.
Uthgard 1.0 survived a very long time with 1 week timer,
Ardri wrote: ↑Thu 30 May 2019 3:01 AMGood compromise would be 8 hours. Let me play a realm on friday night, go to bed, then play a new realm on saturday morning.
Druth wrote: ↑Thu 30 May 2019 6:28 AM
Correct, my mistake. Guess things worked out there, was pretty popular server before they started downgrading everything.
I can read that the main concerns people have are when other x-realm and use information to gank, or defend relics etc...
Which would be solved with 4 hour. Can't find realm pride being an issue, not that it excludes it being an issue here though.
FUINY7 wrote: ↑Thu 30 May 2019 6:28 PM20 TO 30 MIN TIMER MAX to let the ongoing RvR action time to end, and still let peoples to switch when action stink on one side or missing player to complete proper group.
It would allow player to run more often and balance the server by itself :
In the last days i haven't form because of the lack of players, when i could have bring players from an other realm to join US or vis versa.
In the last days i tried to reroll a char on another side just to be forced to give up because the timer would not made it possible to also play with friends on my original realm.
We are at a point i already experience on other free-shard where the critical point is reached, server is dying :
https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html
The trend line is clear, i give it 2-3 more months with this kind of rules-set and i expect it to accelerate because of situations i just described.
GM, don't let us fall in the ravine, don't repeat other free-shard GM mistake over again.
Mac wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2019 3:47 PMI think there needs to be a timer to prevent people from switching realms in the middle of a relic raid or other sta=rategic fight BUT... It doesn't need to be 12 hours for that. 4 hours would be enough.
Fooj Fujiyama wrote: ↑Mon 3 Jun 2019 5:46 AMwith no explanation given
Fooj Fujiyama wrote: ↑Mon 3 Jun 2019 5:46 AMThere has been an overwhelming majority of people saying we want a shorter timer
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Mon 3 Jun 2019 8:17 AMYou can`t compensate the lack of players with something like removing a realm switch timer. The number of players will stay the same.
No matter what you do, it`s nearly impossible to get a larger number of players back once they`re gone.
Druth wrote: ↑Mon 3 Jun 2019 8:48 AMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Mon 3 Jun 2019 8:17 AMYou can`t compensate the lack of players with something like removing a realm switch timer. The number of players will stay the same.
No matter what you do, it`s nearly impossible to get a larger number of players back once they`re gone.
Maybe, but if some really crave to switch so much that they risk bans, I have come to think that it would be better to allow it, but reward (greatly) people that don't.
That way you don't enforce realm pride, but encourage it instead.
Most with children understand that you often will accomplish more in regards to behavior with positive encouragement rather than punishment.
Please don't regard my change of heart as bending to the spam people have done here, but because of several arguments and thinking about my stance rather than chaining myself to it.
Sepplord wrote: ↑Mon 3 Jun 2019 9:57 AMRemoving the timer now, doesn't mean people who broke the rules before were punished unrightfully...
this isn't civil war like, where breaking a stupid rules is an act of fighting for the right cause
changing rules neither means the rules was stupid before, nor does it imply that breaking the rule before it's change was okay
mindboggling what acrobytics have to happen in the train of thought to result in such claims
Raunz wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 4:58 AMWhy are you trying to compromise people, the timer is ridiculous and needs to be removed, tbh we need some sort of players council with veto powers so this lunacy wont happen again.
Raunz wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 4:58 AMWhy are you trying to compromise people, the timer is ridiculous and needs to be removed, tbh we need some sort of players council with veto powers so this lunacy wont happen again.
Druth wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 7:12 AMRaunz wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 4:58 AMWhy are you trying to compromise people, the timer is ridiculous and needs to be removed, tbh we need some sort of players council with veto powers so this lunacy wont happen again.
Because some delusional people seem to think 8v8 community knows DaoC best, and because the server belongs to the Devs and not the players.
Some are even so delusional that they think you need to unban people who broke the rules, if said rule got changed.
Raunz wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 10:19 AMThis is where you can see 2 totally different pov, i believe daoc belongs to the people that still play no matter who runs the server and about delusional 8vs8 community, we the 8vs8 community want to play our way and not be messed with and believe everyone should have their way of play represented... even you buddy.
Druth wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 10:25 AMRaunz wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 10:19 AMThis is where you can see 2 totally different pov, i believe daoc belongs to the people that still play no matter who runs the server and about delusional 8vs8 community, we the 8vs8 community want to play our way and not be messed with and believe everyone should have their way of play represented... even you buddy.
The playstyles are not compatible.
No realm timer (easier to form groups) vs. no switch (forced to belong to a realm)
Stealth, solo, smallman, 8man pug, 8man guild, zerg, stealth zerg.
All of these wants different things.
PvE lovers, vs. fast xp, fast templating.
You might not belong to all, but they are all on the server.
That is why you compromise,
and instead of just saying: "There is no reason for a realm timer!"
you instead try to understand why some like it, and then adjust your demands to suit their playstyle.
"No timer" is not a compromise, that is what you want.
Why don't you eat some of that "humble pie" you talked about?
raghh wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 5:57 PMI believe that 12 hours realm-timer does nothing but forcing alot of guilds to disband; which most likely is causing the server to die sooner or later. Atleast lower the timer to a few hours so people have a chance to mitigate the damge when guildies log into the wrong realm.
access wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 11:52 PMraghh wrote: ↑Tue 4 Jun 2019 5:57 PMI believe that 12 hours realm-timer does nothing but forcing alot of guilds to disband; which most likely is causing the server to die sooner or later. Atleast lower the timer to a few hours so people have a chance to mitigate the damge when guildies log into the wrong realm.
we are expected to have a conference call every morning with every single person we play with just to make sure we can play together.
Sepplord wrote: ↑Wed 5 Jun 2019 7:55 AMwe know where we stand:
No changes planned at this time
If they change their mind, i am sure they will tell us
gruenesschaf
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Wed 5 Jun 2019 11:32 PMThe timer will not be removed.
Even if you ignore the minor issues like people logging other realms to flame after getting killed, you still have the primary reason why the timer exists: Avoid fluctuations caused by joining certain bg leaders / the currently dominating realm. Best example from live would be people logging out of other realms and joining the hib Herorius zerg when it runs.
Niix wrote: ↑Wed 5 Jun 2019 11:46 PMHave you seen the realm map? hibernia literally owned all of midgard not too long ago, so whatever you think its solving it isn't.
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Wed 5 Jun 2019 11:32 PMThe timer will not be removed.
Even if you ignore the minor issues like people logging other realms to flame after getting killed, you still have the primary reason why the timer exists: Avoid fluctuations caused by joining certain bg leaders / the currently dominating realm. Best example from live would be people logging out of other realms and joining the hib Herorius zerg when it runs.
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Wed 5 Jun 2019 11:32 PMThe timer will not be removed.
Even if you ignore the minor issues like people logging other realms to flame after getting killed, you still have the primary reason why the timer exists: Avoid fluctuations caused by joining certain bg leaders / the currently dominating realm. Best example from live would be people logging out of other realms and joining the hib Herorius zerg when it runs.
Raunz wrote: ↑Thu 6 Jun 2019 6:27 AMgruenesschaf wrote: ↑Wed 5 Jun 2019 11:32 PMThe timer will not be removed.
Even if you ignore the minor issues like people logging other realms to flame after getting killed, you still have the primary reason why the timer exists: Avoid fluctuations caused by joining certain bg leaders / the currently dominating realm. Best example from live would be people logging out of other realms and joining the hib Herorius zerg when it runs.
My conspiracy theory seems to be correct that the German GM's on this server are some of the people stuck on Herorius running in circles around EV.
If you actually think those are valid reasons i don't see any hope for the server....
"Best example from live would be people logging out of other realms and joining the hib Herorius zerg when it runs." Go ahead and do that here, we would just team up with other 8 mans and farm them off the server.
We need player council that review everything you guys do with veto powers in my opinion, you may own this server but this is our game, not yours!
RIP DAOC 06.06.2019
Uthred
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