remove /switch

Isavyr wrote: ↑

Fri 1 Mar 2019 9:22 PM

semadin wrote: ↑

Fri 1 Mar 2019 8:06 PM

In a system where you can swap unequipped gear mid combat, /switch makes sense to streamline the user interface.

I think it'd make for much more interesting fighting if you just couldn't equip gear from bags while in combat. Swap between your equipped weapons sure, but if it's in your bag it should stay there.

This would probably have the greatest impact on assassins and poison application (which is admittedly most likely why I want that to happen)

I agree with you on this (and I play assassin), but the negative here is this gives assassins no way to repoison, and shifts melee archers to beat assassins (purge remove poisons, and IP without disease), while also having crit shot that does more damage than PA. This isn't hyperbole. This makes archers better--better in melee, better at ranged, so this is a problem.

But let's ignore assassins. Now you've removed the benefits of 2h in alb and hib, which is that they can change damage types.

Essentially you have to allow certain classes, or weapon types, to swap, or you will hurt the balance.

Not that i disagree, as there's naturally a level of complexity to the balance which has been created due to the ability to swap (and the likelihood of a change like this happening is pretty slim), but as some counter arguments...

Being able to switch to whatever damage type you like removes the hard decision making of choosing to focus on a particular weapon type. I think being able to switch mid combat is lazy in that perspective, and makes for less dynamic gameplay in the long run.

Though there's the obvious counter argument that switching mid combat is its own strategy - but if there's no penalty to weapon type decisions because of this then whats the point?

From an archer's perspective (ignoring the arguments around archer's current weaknesses), an example comparison is swapping out bows. The simple version being that I can do my heaviest single shots with a 5.5 bow and immediately swap to a faster bow for max rapid fire speed. Suddenly there's no downside to choosing a slower bow. With a damage add on, I can also have a different 5.5 bow for crit shots that has no quickness on it (slower draw time = more from the damage add). That dynamic looks to me like lazier less interesting game design.

I always found older versions of daoc more compelling because you had to make sacrifices for greater more focused benefits. There's too much 'give me all of it' that tends to creep into adjustments in this game, which is why Live is the way it is.

I'd agree from an assassin's perspective that having your poisons wiped so easily and not having an answer to that is not great, and i'm sure also something that'd be a problem in every melee scenario, not just vs archers. (if they did remove the ability to swap in weapons from your bag mid combat, I'd suggest a high base envenom skill that makes it difficult or impossible to purge poisons) Of course that's only the case on the cooldown of purge...but then we are at the point of balancing classes based on conditions of timed RA abilities, and not the classes themselves (which is just another issue that's always been prevalent in this game).

I'd disagree on your assessment of crit shot vs PA. maybe comparing the damage of the two skills alone and in the perfect environments, but so much of RVR is imperfect, and PA chain gives you a (much) greater advantage to kill than crit shot.