Realm Rank System for PvE - Phoenix Freeshard

What if we had a PvE realm rank system for cosmetics. 13 ranks and you can unlock ToA artifact reskins, Champion level reskins, and a mount. At RR 10 you unlock the Champion weapon reskin. At RR 13 you unlock the champion mount. Class specific cosmetics. Use BP or Feathers to buy the reskins once you reach a certain rank. Can only use reskins if you are the proper rank. Earn points for killing mobs that drop feathers.

You could track your progress in game just like with the RvR realm rank system. The Phoenix Herald would track the pve realm ranks as well.

It is kind of like how players would progress through Champion levels, but it would be cosmetic rewards only.

Mon 19 Nov 2018 10:28 PM by Mura

So, sounds like you're suggesting that we take all the feather rewards and lock them behind a grind for no real reason other than to make them a grind to unlock.

Mon 19 Nov 2018 10:32 PM by defiasbandit

Mura wrote: ↑
Mon 19 Nov 2018 10:28 PM
So, sounds like you're suggesting that we take all the feather rewards and lock them behind a grind for no real reason other than to make them a grind to unlock.

Im talking about creating an alternate progression system to the RvR realm rank system. That way players can choose between raising their RvR or PvE realm rank.

The pve realm ranks would only give access to high end cosmetic gear unlocks. It would not change the current feather merchants since they sell gear not cosmetics.

Mon 19 Nov 2018 11:04 PM by Takii

There is an alternate progression system for PvE, it's called Phoenix Feathers.

You're basically just talking about wrapping it into another container.

Tue 20 Nov 2018 12:29 AM by defiasbandit

Takii wrote: ↑
Mon 19 Nov 2018 11:04 PM
There is an alternate progression system for PvE, it's called Phoenix Feathers.

You're basically just talking about wrapping it into another container.

Yes and I think repackaging into a progression system is important. Then creating a tiered cosmetic reward system tied to it.

You can have a PvE RR and compare your progress towards others. It's more exciting than just adding up your feather amount and buying an item.

I think that what will keep many players motivated to play here is if they have items to collect and ways to customize their characters. The frontiers should have more options and ways to farm for example.

Tue 20 Nov 2018 6:31 AM by Cadebrennus

Tue 20 Nov 2018 6:34 AM by defiasbandit

Takii wrote: ↑
Mon 19 Nov 2018 11:04 PM
There is an alternate progression system for PvE, it's called Phoenix Feathers.

You're basically just talking about wrapping it into another container.

Think of the Realm Rank system. What if all you got were realm points that you took and spent on RA abilities. No realm Ranks, no herald tracking, no progress bar.

Having such features in a realm rank system for PvE would make it seem more official and appealing.

Tue 20 Nov 2018 1:47 PM by ghettoblaster

defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Mon 19 Nov 2018 10:32 PM
Mura wrote: ↑
Mon 19 Nov 2018 10:28 PM
So, sounds like you're suggesting that we take all the feather rewards and lock them behind a grind for no real reason other than to make them a grind to unlock.

Im talking about creating an alternate progression system to the RvR realm rank system. That way players can choose between raising their RvR or PvE realm rank.

The pve realm ranks would only give access to high end cosmetic gear unlocks. It would not change the current feather merchants since they sell gear not cosmetics.

Just play a pve game please

Tue 20 Nov 2018 2:14 PM by Doiri

ghettoblaster wrote: ↑
Tue 20 Nov 2018 1:47 PM
defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Mon 19 Nov 2018 10:32 PM
Mura wrote: ↑
Mon 19 Nov 2018 10:28 PM
So, sounds like you're suggesting that we take all the feather rewards and lock them behind a grind for no real reason other than to make them a grind to unlock.

Im talking about creating an alternate progression system to the RvR realm rank system. That way players can choose between raising their RvR or PvE realm rank.

The pve realm ranks would only give access to high end cosmetic gear unlocks. It would not change the current feather merchants since they sell gear not cosmetics.
Just play a pve game please

daoc is both a great pve and pvp game. i've been playing it since release day mainly - not only - as a pve game. you not liking the pve part doesn't make it a pvp game only.

Tue 20 Nov 2018 2:56 PM by Druth

DaoC is a PvE/PvP game where both aspects affect each other.
PvE to become viable for PvP, which improves your PvE abilities as well, which you can use to get more PvP advantages, etc etc...

It's endgame does look like it's RvR, and think pretty much all evidence suggests this.
But you do not become viable for RvR without PvE.

Tue 20 Nov 2018 4:57 PM by defiasbandit

The idea here to give players something in PvE to progress towards beyond just gear temps. Have it be an official system like the Realm Rank system.

Tue 20 Nov 2018 9:24 PM by Tree

Another well thought through idea to make DAoC great again form defiasbandit. You really are one of a kind

Tue 20 Nov 2018 9:45 PM by Doiri

Tree wrote: ↑
Tue 20 Nov 2018 9:24 PM
Another well thought through idea to make DAoC great again form defiasbandit. You really are one of a kind

yeah that's the uthgardian spirit right there.

someone has a suggestion? OMG SHOOT HIM!

Tue 20 Nov 2018 10:07 PM by Tree

If they were actually suggestions worth talking about...

Just look at the forum, its littered with his nonsense. None of it remotely fits with the spirit of DAoC. Its like his brain has no filter or sense of consequence at all, like a child wondering what will happen if they put their hand on the hotplate or... well... making a thread about putting your hand on the hotplate along the lines of "Oh that will be the best and greatest! Lets all do it together!"

And it doesnt end either, there is one foolishness after the other.

Tue 20 Nov 2018 10:10 PM by defiasbandit

Tree wrote: ↑
Tue 20 Nov 2018 10:07 PM
If they were actually suggestions worth talking about...

Just look at the forum, its littered with his nonsense. None of it remotely fits with the spirit of DAoC. Its like his brain has no filter or sense of consequence at all, like a child wondering what will happen if they put their hand on the hotplate or... well... making a thread about putting your hand on the hotplate along the lines of "Oh that will be the best and greatest! Lets all do it together!"

And it doesnt end either, there is one foolishness after the other.

Uthgard is the living or should I say dying spirit of daoc. Phoenix is about custom changes. Why not be critical of the suggestion instead of the one posting it.

Wed 21 Nov 2018 12:32 AM by Takii

Because you post so many goddamn random suggestions that it's a full time job to try and debate them. Most of us have given up long ago.

Wed 21 Nov 2018 3:13 AM by Sepplord

Doiri wrote: ↑
Tue 20 Nov 2018 9:45 PM
Tree wrote: ↑
Tue 20 Nov 2018 9:24 PM
Another well thought through idea to make DAoC great again form defiasbandit. You really are one of a kind

yeah that's the uthgardian spirit right there.

someone has a suggestion? OMG SHOOT HIM!

The thing is, he has a new "idea" every few hours...

The devs don't even read them anymore, and i don't blame them....because it is just a constant flood of things without filter....there are good ideas, for sure, some that i realize like...but reading everything and thinking about it properly is just not something they have time for currently (proof: his locked idea about giving RP bonus for holding the keeps in the outerborderzones...Locked with a comment about "no teleports in the frontier keeps"

We are at a point where less would actually be more, because people are not reacting anymore, and the ones that are more or less just say things akin to Tree's comment

Wed 21 Nov 2018 12:13 PM by

gruenesschaf

I wish we wouldn't read them :<

Sat 24 Nov 2018 3:25 AM by Sepplord

gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Wed 21 Nov 2018 12:13 PM
I wish we wouldn't read them :<

haha touche, and I really didn't want to offend (if it came across like that)

you are all doing a great job so far and it is YOUR private time you are sacrificing for us all to have a great doc playground soon.

Fri 8 Feb 2019 11:00 PM by defiasbandit

A lot of players playing Phoenix seem to prefer PvE. You can see that about half of the level 50 player base spends their tine doing boss runs, dungeons, and raids. In order to keep these players for the long term, having a Realm Rank progression system could work.

Killing any mobs that drop feathers would give players PvE RR exp. This seems reasonable to implement, and could go fair in retaining the PvE crowd.

Sat 9 Feb 2019 12:13 AM by Luluko

defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Fri 8 Feb 2019 11:00 PM
A lot of players playing Phoenix seem to prefer PvE. You can see that about half of the level 50 player base spends their tine doing boss runs, dungeons, and raids. In order to keep these players for the long term, having a Realm Rank progression system could work.

Killing any mobs that drop feathers would give players PvE RR exp. This seems reasonable to implement, and could go fair in retaining the PvE crowd.

Not all players do raids because they are fun with all the lds or missing support classes in most grps. They do it to be able to get the gear they want that they can rvr and since all those items costs like 15k feathers where you probably need at least 4 (some for buff charges, some for the temp) you will have to do the raids for 6 times at least to get the amount of feathers just for one toon. Its still better than on live ofc when you would have to /random for the loot with 400+ people in the raid. But its certainly quite some work for people which want to play multiple classes and some others just need some cash to pay a scer or buy the armor for that and they sell those items they buy with feathers. Its just one of the best ways to make quick money if you dont have a farm/salvaging toon.

Also I wouldnt be against your pve rank idea but I think the resources would be better spend on rvr balance. I for example am not a fan of 9sec stuns like dragonfang and slam on all classes which arent a fulltank, you are pretty much dead without purge up in most cases except if you wear plate maybe and got ip rdy. So you can pretty much just run from those classes without purge up in 1vs1 scenarios.