[QOL Suggestion] - Two Active Songs Simultaneously

Started 16 Jan 2019

by Psylence

in Suggestions

Hi Dev Team,

Please consider adding in this QOL adjustment to live, originally made on live servers in Patch 1.97:

"Bards, Minstrels, Paladins, Skalds, and Wardens will now be able to run two songs or chants simultaneously. "

Internally, this change was primarily designed to target Bards, such that Hibernia could run endurance/speed without having to twist (which put the realm at a disadvantage trying to land an initial mez due to the long channel times of instrument songs), and was extended to Minstrels and Skalds as fellow music classes. Additionally, it was then debated to include Paladins and Wardens as it alleviated a lot of the complaints about needing to twist where two songs were often enough (primarily in PvE, such as Damage Add / Endo or Damage Add / BT respectively).

Ultimately, this change was a benefit to all players that did not run macro programs, as it helped level the playing field with a simple solution. However the Dev team would choose to implement this, it would be a positive QOL change, and a benefit to the server.

Thanks!

Wed 16 Jan 2019 3:14 PM by Sepplord

i disagree, and it is FAR from a QOL...it's a balance change, and not a small one
you even write it yourself that it is not a QOL feature but a buff to bards and hibgrps

I don't think they need it, neither bards nor hibs in general need a buff

Wed 16 Jan 2019 3:26 PM by

Uthred

This suggestion has already been made during Alpha & Beta and we will not implement it. Our QoL are harps but we will not put in two active songs simultaneously.

Wed 16 Jan 2019 7:00 PM by teiloh

Would it be possible to raise base duration on played songs to 8, up from 6, while reducing the cast speed from 3 to ~2.5 seconds?

The 3s hard cast was a legacy from a time when RAs weren't fully implemented and dex caps were harder to reach. On live, they are more than 2x slower than a casted equivalent while I believe the design intent was for something closer to 1.5-1.8x.

Also, while I understand you are not permitting two active songs simultaneously, would the following be feasible considerations:

1) Putting songs (instruments) and chants on separate limits. Bards would be able to run 1 sist and a song, minstrels charm/ablative and a song.
2) Allowing seamless switching between songs once the instrument is activated

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