Prestige Mode? Reset RR with a very minor benefit

So how about a presitge mode.

at a certain point ranking up from 11L8 to 11L9 beocmes less interesting and less rewarding and the 11L player has such a huge advantage over the 1L players becomes so big that its no longer a competition.

WHAT IF!!!!

We had 'Prestige mode' like COD where at RR10 you reset to RR1 and gained +1% Crit chance to Melee and Magic. a VERY minor improvement but an improvement nonetheless, that encouraged the uber RRs to go back down to being 'lowbies' and adding challenge keeping it interesting for them and for the little guys too.

Mon 15 Mar 2021 5:41 AM by easytoremember

With the amount of time it takes going 8 to 10 I'd never do it. It sounds like you figured out how to get a 50 to reset to 1 though >> for insignificant PvE bonuses

Mon 15 Mar 2021 5:56 AM by ExcretusMaximus

Irkeno wrote: ↑
Mon 15 Mar 2021 5:08 AM
We had 'Prestige mode' like COD where at RR10 you reset to RR1 and gained +1% Crit chance to Melee and Magic. a VERY minor improvement but an improvement nonetheless, that encouraged the uber RRs to go back down to being 'lowbies' and adding challenge keeping it interesting for them and for the little guys too.

Literally no one would do this.

Mon 15 Mar 2021 8:59 AM by DJ2000

Look, instead of seeing yet another topic about RR resets or the myriad of ways on how to do it under some sort of pretense/pretext.

May it be due to Data corruption, fire or electrical hazard, changes of Location/hardware, hardware failure or whatever reason...
...the Day will come the Dev Team has to take some action, Involuntarily or not, that could or would result in a bigger or lesser data wipe (restart/refresh or deletion).

Or maybe they drop it for lack of interest, time or money. Who knows, nobody knows.

If it happens, for whatever reason, my only hope would be that the team would remain and can or want start anew, as they have proven themselves and as far as i am concerned they are doing a great job. I would not leave or get hung up upon that i lost some "digital goods", that would be nonsense.

Until then, the Server as is, is maintained by a rather small but committed Dev Team and is running fine enough, better than anyone "returning" could have ever asked for. Perfect? No, such a thing doesn't exist.

Tue 16 Mar 2021 9:23 AM by inoeth

DJ2000 wrote: ↑
Mon 15 Mar 2021 8:59 AM
...the Day will come the Dev Team has to take some action, Involuntarily or not, that could or would result in a bigger or lesser data wipe (restart/refresh or deletion).

why, because some lazy ppl want the rr11 ppl to lose all their progress? i dont see any reason for a wipe tbh. if you want to catch up -> play the content

Tue 16 Mar 2021 11:08 AM by Ceen

inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 16 Mar 2021 9:23 AM
DJ2000 wrote: ↑
Mon 15 Mar 2021 8:59 AM
...the Day will come the Dev Team has to take some action, Involuntarily or not, that could or would result in a bigger or lesser data wipe (restart/refresh or deletion).

why, because some lazy ppl want the rr11 ppl to lose all their progress? i dont see any reason for a wipe tbh. if you want to catch up -> play the content

I have to admit the average RR of players you hit outside the zerg, where your actions matter is quite discouraging on the first look.
You constantly fight vs ladies, lords, baruns whatever who don't hesitate to roll over all their buttons.
So every fight outside the zerg is a major challenge for little reward and that's not very attractive to many players.
They would probably wipe anyways vs experienced players but RR is easy to blame =)

Tue 16 Mar 2021 12:22 PM by DJ2000

inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 16 Mar 2021 9:23 AM
DJ2000 wrote: ↑
Mon 15 Mar 2021 8:59 AM
...the Day will come the Dev Team has to take some action, Involuntarily or not, that could or would result in a bigger or lesser data wipe (restart/refresh or deletion).
why, because some lazy ppl want the rr11 ppl to lose all their progress? i dont see any reason for a wipe tbh. if you want to catch up -> play the content

gg for quoting it out of context.

The meaning was:
The Devs and majority of players don't care about DaoC-Seasons or RR-reset, and if it ever would happen, then it would be only due to unfortunate circumstances.

Other than that and the fact you called ppl lazy, i do agree with your comment.

Tue 16 Mar 2021 1:06 PM by joshisanonymous

Ceen wrote: ↑
Tue 16 Mar 2021 11:08 AM
I have to admit the average RR of players you hit outside the zerg, where your actions matter is quite discouraging on the first look.
You constantly fight vs ladies, lords, baruns whatever who don't hesitate to roll over all their buttons.
So every fight outside the zerg is a major challenge for little reward and that's not very attractive to many players.
They would probably wipe anyways vs experienced players but RR is easy to blame =)

To me, none of this is an issue because you already get rewarded pretty handsomely at low RR even for just going out and dying.

Case in point, because everything else in the game was dead, I reluctantly leveled a savage during the last event for a change of pace. He ended up RR4 by the end. I recently temped him out and played a few hours of solo RvR (max 11 but probably more like 5 or 6 when you throw in AFK time and not logging the toon when done to get the last tick). I didn't farm XPers or anything like that, but even as a very non-melee player on a class thought to be pretty poor for soloing, I picked up 13 kills and made 4L2 in those few hours. That's not bad: two ranks in an afternoon with relative success in fights (I lost some fights for sure, but I won more than I lost). Most importantly, I had fun doing it. So, all around, pretty rewarding gameplay, both in RPs and fun.

Tue 16 Mar 2021 9:17 PM by Enyore

Actually this is not a bad idea.....

Except make it forced and reset the entire server every 2 years where the entire server is wiped and all chars reset to level 1 and 1L0 - keep your tradeskills as the only thing.
Your highest rank, say 12L3 would then give you 1,23% more damage or heal effect in the next season and future seasons to come .... if your highest is rr5l3 it would be 0,53% .....

There is nothing left to do for many players, quite many have just about every single class at 50 by now and though I would welcome the reset despite loosing around 20 mill rps combined.

But i guess that will never happen - we will be stuck in this kinda boring meta with rr11 zergs doing daily rinse and repeat.

Wed 17 Mar 2021 12:51 AM by Jingo NZ

I like the idea of an OPTIONAL SEASONAL RR RESET. You could make it opt-in, so that players who don't want to reset don't have to.

There is no doubt that the feeling of a fresh server breathes some new life.

Players who reset their RR for the new season get access to new titles, kill stats for the season, and maybe some non-trivial perk. Such as bounty point items with charges on a separate timer to regular items.

How long should a season last? 12-18 months?

Wed 17 Mar 2021 12:54 AM by Jingo NZ

Also worth mentioning, players who don't want to reset a particular high RR toon may just start another toon (while keeping their high RR) to get access to the season 2 stuff. That would still be a good outcome for server freshness.

Wed 17 Mar 2021 4:16 PM by Enyore

Except no one would opt in... so waste of alot of work to impliment such a point

Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:48 PM by Beeblebrox

I have limited time for RVR. It has taken me a very long time to reach rr7 on one character. If I ever make it to a high realm rank I don't think I would appreciate being set back to RR1 or any Realm Rank lower than what I earned. Once someone reaches RR13, what is the point of RVRing that toon anymore? I would think they'd likely start playing a different toon at that point assuming they still want to play at all.

Fri 19 Mar 2021 3:49 PM by Enyore

Beeblebrox wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:48 PM
I have limited time for RVR. It has taken me a very long time to reach rr7 on one character. If I ever make it to a high realm rank I don't think I would appreciate being set back to RR1 or any Realm Rank lower than what I earned. Once someone reaches RR13, what is the point of RVRing that toon anymore? I would think they'd likely start playing a different toon at that point assuming they still want to play at all.

Point is really not that someone is rr12 or 13... but that half the darn server is rr10+ already.

Fri 19 Mar 2021 4:35 PM by joshisanonymous

Enyore wrote: ↑
Fri 19 Mar 2021 3:49 PM
Beeblebrox wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:48 PM
I have limited time for RVR. It has taken me a very long time to reach rr7 on one character. If I ever make it to a high realm rank I don't think I would appreciate being set back to RR1 or any Realm Rank lower than what I earned. Once someone reaches RR13, what is the point of RVRing that toon anymore? I would think they'd likely start playing a different toon at that point assuming they still want to play at all.

Point is really not that someone is rr12 or 13... but that half the darn server is rr10+ already.

I feel like there's too much assumption that this is a problem. Yes, there's an advantage to having high RR, but the reason that half the server has attained high RR is because this is something that's attainable by a lot of people here. If we still have people continuing to get there, is that not in itself a sign that things are fine?

Fri 19 Mar 2021 10:47 PM by gotwqqd

joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Fri 19 Mar 2021 4:35 PM
Enyore wrote: ↑
Fri 19 Mar 2021 3:49 PM
Beeblebrox wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Mar 2021 12:48 PM
I have limited time for RVR. It has taken me a very long time to reach rr7 on one character. If I ever make it to a high realm rank I don't think I would appreciate being set back to RR1 or any Realm Rank lower than what I earned. Once someone reaches RR13, what is the point of RVRing that toon anymore? I would think they'd likely start playing a different toon at that point assuming they still want to play at all.

Point is really not that someone is rr12 or 13... but that half the darn server is rr10+ already.

I feel like there's too much assumption that this is a problem. Yes, there's an advantage to having high RR, but the reason that half the server has attained high RR is because this is something that's attainable by a lot of people here. If we still have people continuing to get there, is that not in itself a sign that things are fine?

It’s attainable because some people play 12 hours a day every day, and have from inception of server.

The disparity in overall power and effectiveness makes it tough to want to play on a consistent basis and for extended hours. Many feel in they made quicker headway to some RR of say 6 or 7 they will not feel like they are overmatched.

Fri 19 Mar 2021 11:28 PM by ExcretusMaximus

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Fri 19 Mar 2021 10:47 PM
The disparity in overall power and effectiveness makes it tough to want to play on a consistent basis and for extended hours. Many feel in they made quicker headway to some RR of say 6 or 7 they will not feel like they are overmatched.

And six months later, or a year later, they will use the exact same argument to beg for increased gains until RR10.