Mastery of Stealth Change - Phoenix Freeshard

Currently, putting points into stealth controls your level of Mastery of Stealth. Stealthers typically wont skill stealth past 39 so they don't benefit from MoS 7+. However, once they start climbing RR they eventually stop skilling past 35 meaning they drop to MoS 5. My suggestion is to give MoS 6 to stealthers by default or have it scale by level with it capping at MoS 6 at lvl 50. I think that would make more sense and higher RR stealthers wont get punished for being a higher RR.

Thhoughts?

Mon 21 Dec 2020 5:05 AM by gotwqqd

btcdaddy wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 4:48 AM
Currently, putting points into stealth controls your level of Mastery of Stealth. Stealthers typically wont skill stealth past 39 so they don't benefit from MoS 7+. However, once they start climbing RR they eventually stop skilling past 35 meaning they drop to MoS 5. My suggestion is to give MoS 6 to stealthers by default or have it scale by level with it capping at MoS 6 at lvl 50. I think that would make more sense and higher RR stealthers wont get punished for being a higher RR.

Thhoughts?

They are not being punished
They can leave it and reap the benefits. They choose to increase WS in another line
Personally I think envenom poisons should be treated same as styles....you have to spec to get the use

Mon 21 Dec 2020 5:31 AM by Hedien

btcdaddy wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 4:48 AM
Currently, putting points into stealth controls your level of Mastery of Stealth. Stealthers typically wont skill stealth past 39 so they don't benefit from MoS 7+. However, once they start climbing RR they eventually stop skilling past 35 meaning they drop to MoS 5. My suggestion is to give MoS 6 to stealthers by default or have it scale by level with it capping at MoS 6 at lvl 50. I think that would make more sense and higher RR stealthers wont get punished for being a higher RR.

Thhoughts?

Assassin need a nerf, not a buff.

Sat/Faturday.

Mon 21 Dec 2020 6:10 AM by Xinlitik

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 5:05 AM
btcdaddy wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 4:48 AM
Currently, putting points into stealth controls your level of Mastery of Stealth. Stealthers typically wont skill stealth past 39 so they don't benefit from MoS 7+. However, once they start climbing RR they eventually stop skilling past 35 meaning they drop to MoS 5. My suggestion is to give MoS 6 to stealthers by default or have it scale by level with it capping at MoS 6 at lvl 50. I think that would make more sense and higher RR stealthers wont get punished for being a higher RR.

Thhoughts?
They are not being punished
They can leave it and reap the benefits. They choose to increase WS in another line
Personally I think envenom poisons should be treated same as styles....you have to spec to get the use

That could be interesting- but poisons would have to be buffed, or it would be a massive nerf. Creating a decision between strong poisons and strong weapons would be cool. Maybe infs would be OP though...

Mon 21 Dec 2020 6:46 AM by Lollie

If I remember right Mos only increase stealth speed and is only a 3% increase between 35 and 40 which isn't exactly game breaking

Mon 21 Dec 2020 10:16 AM by btcdaddy

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 5:05 AM
btcdaddy wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 4:48 AM
Currently, putting points into stealth controls your level of Mastery of Stealth. Stealthers typically wont skill stealth past 39 so they don't benefit from MoS 7+. However, once they start climbing RR they eventually stop skilling past 35 meaning they drop to MoS 5. My suggestion is to give MoS 6 to stealthers by default or have it scale by level with it capping at MoS 6 at lvl 50. I think that would make more sense and higher RR stealthers wont get punished for being a higher RR.

Thhoughts?
They are not being punished
They can leave it and reap the benefits. They choose to increase WS in another line
Personally I think envenom poisons should be treated same as styles....you have to spec to get the use

you really believe stealthers can compete using lvl 30 poisons? pretty sure that would murder the class.

Mon 21 Dec 2020 10:17 AM by btcdaddy

Lollie wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 6:46 AM
If I remember right Mos only increase stealth speed and is only a 3% increase between 35 and 40 which isn't exactly game breaking

I agree which is why it makes sense to just give it by default or by level since its so negligible...right?

Mon 21 Dec 2020 10:32 AM by Lollie

Depends, i'm not too sure how higher realm rank stealthers spec in stealth, whether they go below 35 and take the reduced speed or that 35 is the minimum. If it is then giving mos default would allow them to reduce stealth even further for composite stealth thus freeing up more spec points to make them even more powerfull, it's a double edged sword.

Mon 21 Dec 2020 11:31 AM by Noashakra

btcdaddy wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 10:16 AM
gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 5:05 AM
btcdaddy wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 4:48 AM
Currently, putting points into stealth controls your level of Mastery of Stealth. Stealthers typically wont skill stealth past 39 so they don't benefit from MoS 7+. However, once they start climbing RR they eventually stop skilling past 35 meaning they drop to MoS 5. My suggestion is to give MoS 6 to stealthers by default or have it scale by level with it capping at MoS 6 at lvl 50. I think that would make more sense and higher RR stealthers wont get punished for being a higher RR.

Thhoughts?
They are not being punished
They can leave it and reap the benefits. They choose to increase WS in another line
Personally I think envenom poisons should be treated same as styles....you have to spec to get the use

you really believe stealthers can compete using lvl 30 poisons? pretty sure that would murder the class.

I would ignore everything he has to say about class balance. It's coming from someone that said that 1.5s between PA and CD is not enough to react.

Otherwise, why bother with a MoS change? Do we really need a buff? I don't see the point. I play with MoS 5 and I don't see any problem.
If you want MoS 6, invest in stealth.

Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:20 PM by gotwqqd

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 11:31 AM
btcdaddy wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 10:16 AM
gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 5:05 AM
btcdaddy wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Dec 2020 4:48 AM
Currently, putting points into stealth controls your level of Mastery of Stealth. Stealthers typically wont skill stealth past 39 so they don't benefit from MoS 7+. However, once they start climbing RR they eventually stop skilling past 35 meaning they drop to MoS 5. My suggestion is to give MoS 6 to stealthers by default or have it scale by level with it capping at MoS 6 at lvl 50. I think that would make more sense and higher RR stealthers wont get punished for being a higher RR.

Thhoughts?
They are not being punished
They can leave it and reap the benefits. They choose to increase WS in another line
Personally I think envenom poisons should be treated same as styles....you have to spec to get the use

you really believe stealthers can compete using lvl 30 poisons? pretty sure that would murder the class.

I would ignore everything he has to say about class balance. It's coming from someone that said that 1.5s between PA and CD is not enough to react.

Otherwise, why bother with a MoS change? Do we really need a buff? I don't see the point. I play with MoS 5 and I don't see any problem.
If you want MoS 6, invest in stealth.

Quit misquoting to meet your agenda.
All you are interested in is keeping your massive advantage

Mon 21 Dec 2020 1:11 PM by Noashakra

Git gut
https://ibb.co/mDb0cdC
And don't come with the excuse you have 1.5s latency because of your wifi lamo.

You must be turning your toon around with keyboard keys and at the same time complain that assassins are OP.