Maintain /respec freedom - Phoenix Freeshard

Okay, so maybe not an outright suggestion. Perhaps, more of an observation, followed by a question to understand the current system.

I enjoy playing support classes. Combine that with limited play time, it can be tough/frustrating to waste time getting a group together. However, I have still been able to really enjoy my shaman because I can go cave spec and solo while waiting for a group spot. When a spot opens up, I can /respec Aug and fulfill that support role.

Having easy access to respec stones has made that possible. So I asked myself, why not have this freedom when the server goes live? What is the purpose of limiting each character into a single spec/role? Is there a reason to force this restriction? Is there concern that people would /respec every few minutes depending on mob/opponent?

What if you could only /respec (for free) under level 50?
What if you could only respec (for free) once every <blank> hours?

Basically, I wanted to suggest leaving the /respec rules in place, but dismissed it as crazy. Then I questioned why it is crazy.

Am I babbling yet?

Tue 31 Jul 2018 5:33 PM by Kralin

Those are some good ideas and could lead to a constructive discussion. I think the purpose of limiting classes to specific specs is to add value to your decision and choice of class. If you let people have easy access to respecs, or make it free under 50, then perhaps we are taking something away from the investment of your character choices. Yes xp is much easier on this server already and we have already seen many QoL changes, but I am personally against allowing us to respec whenever. I like the level 20 and 40 respec options and want to keep it limited when beta ends.

What I don't know yet is how easy will it be to obtain respec stones? If farming them is easy post lvl 50, then you can easily share them with your alts anyway right? They are tradeable aren't they?

Tue 31 Jul 2018 5:43 PM by Throck

I personally disagree with this idea. The devs have done a great job at making QOL improvements that make the game more enjoyable and require less time, but I do think there is a line that needs to be drawn. If you do need to respec, you can always buy a respec stone. If you are not a player who has a lot of time, you probably also wont want need to be fully tempd out, and with the ROG system on this server, it will be much easier to stay competitive without getting SC gear etc. This means that there are only 3 real things to spend money here that affect your performance. You can buy potions, craft (which you can then use to earn your money back), or you can buy respec stones.

I also do not really like the idea of people just respecing when ever they feel like it just so they can get a group spot. Part of the social aspec of this game is to find people who can fill the roles you need in certain situations, but if you can just have a few people be any role, it diminishes the social aspect in my eyes and makes things a little boring.

Maybe way down the line when the server is losing population and it makes sense because there are not enough people around to do every job, but I do not like this idea for launch.

Tue 31 Jul 2018 6:27 PM by colechar

Keep in mind, it wasn't quite a suggestion. More of a topic for conversation. Maybe even more of a kudos to the devs to allow me this freedom while it lasts. As I said, if this has larger, negative implications, then I get it and have no complaints.

Tue 31 Jul 2018 7:06 PM by Quik

If I am not midtaken you can buy respect stones with feathers and respect stones will drop from some raids.

Respec stones should have a high value.

Making them free all the time just kills the value.

You will get free respecs at 20 and 40 I think though.

Tue 31 Jul 2018 7:31 PM by

Uthred

"Respecs

Every player will get 1 skill, 2 realm and the lvl 20/40 single line respec for free.

Trainer will sell single line respecs, which will get increasingly more expensive."

https://playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69

Tue 31 Jul 2018 10:02 PM by Niix

I always liked the idea of being able to respec freely, really makes leveling more enjoyable like you said.

I understand the argument about trying to make decisions matter... but lets be honest the only people affected by that are new players (DO YOU REALLY WANT to hurt new potential player base?) All experience players understand and know the Meta specs and will stick to that no matter what.

Free respecs really only opens up possibilities of being able to respec for PvE for better raiding potential. I would love to spec 39 wep, 50 shield, 42 parry for raiding and then respec when i pvp to a logical spec (depending on realm). So all that happens is my PvE suffers, or I level two of the same class to 50 ..> YAWN.

Maybe, let each class have 2 specs they can toggle between? That may be harder to implement, but I think it would be a fantastic idea (especially post 50).

Tue 31 Jul 2018 10:47 PM by relvinian

I think there is something to be said for available respecs. My thought to follow up your suggestion is to make the ceriac respecs available in frontier dungeons.

As well as the abrogo.