Let us make luri blademasters - Phoenix Freeshard

I don't think that's gonna unbalance stuff, that's my favourite race/class combo on live.

I don't think this will objectively make the game better, but it's not like luri bard or luri druid where it could unbalance stuff.

I would love that lol.

Just a thought :3

Wed 29 May 2019 2:43 AM by easytoremember

No
I'd love to be rid of Kobold Skald as well but that won't happen

The restrictions on classes is part of the game where you're able to narrow down an enemy class based on their race and their equipment, then (most often) confirm as soon as they cast or style
short lurikeens are difficult as shit to click on
elf bm / luri hero

elf also makes inferior bm to a luri

Wed 29 May 2019 3:47 AM by Bradekes

easytoremember wrote: ↑
Wed 29 May 2019 2:43 AM
No
I'd love to be rid of Kobold Skald as well but that won't happen

The restrictions on classes is part of the game where you're able to narrow down an enemy class based on their race and their equipment, then (most often) confirm as soon as they cast or style
short lurikeens are difficult as shit to click on
elf bm / luri hero

elf also makes inferior bm to a luri

If this was really true, then briton would not be able to be literally every one of the 50 classes alb has

Wed 29 May 2019 4:23 AM by Luluko

luri pierce bms were quite devastating on live and would also get the 5% crush resist to what their armor is weak, add to that stealthers will prolly think you are a ranger or that you can hide in other characters with that size... I wouldnt say its completly balanced, at least luri champs cant wear a shortbow to pretend to be a ranger a bm could...

Wed 29 May 2019 4:55 PM by easytoremember

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Wed 29 May 2019 3:47 AM
If this was really true, then briton would not be able to be literally every one of the 50 classes alb has

I forgot about all the Briton cabas/sorcs/wizzies/scouts/armsmen/palas/mercs running around how silly of me

It's similar to Celt having every class -3 or Norse having every class -3
They are the signature races of the realm but not the best race for most of the classes
If you look at the original race/class combos you'll see that Briton/Celt/Norse have the most combos while Highlander/Firbolg/Troll have the least

Giving luri BM gives them the same amount of class options as a celt and they become the best piercing BM

Wed 29 May 2019 5:00 PM by Bradekes

easytoremember wrote: ↑
Wed 29 May 2019 4:55 PM
I forgot about all the Briton cabas/sorcs/wizzies/scouts/armsmen/palas/mercs running around how silly of me

It's similar to Celt having every class -3 or Norse having every class -3
They are the signature races of the realm but not the best race for most of the classes
If you look at the original race/class combos you'll see that Briton/Celt/Norse have the most combos while Highlander/Firbolg/Troll have the least

Giving luri BM gives them the same amount of class options as a celt and they become the best piercing BM

The only point of mentioning briton is the fact that your wrong.. It's not for identification, but you can identify someones class potentially that way...

And firby is the best piercing BM.. Not sure how a luri would be better?? They have less combined str/dex/con

Also saracen have better stats for thrust merc than luri for piercing bm

Wed 29 May 2019 6:38 PM by Kohi

Ok. Want troll SB then. ;-)

Wed 29 May 2019 6:41 PM by Bradekes

Kohi wrote: ↑
Wed 29 May 2019 6:38 PM
Ok. Want troll SB then. ;-)

Sure.... I'd be okay with that.. Would see you stealthing from a mile away

I also think luri BM makes sense than luri hero or champ.. BM class is about finesse vs brute strength

Wed 29 May 2019 6:47 PM by Kohi

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Wed 29 May 2019 6:41 PM
Kohi wrote: ↑
Wed 29 May 2019 6:38 PM
Ok. Want troll SB then. ;-)

Sure.... I'd be okay with that.. Would see you stealthing from a mile away

I also think luri BM makes sense than luri hero or champ.. BM class is about finesse vs brute strength

Only kidding ;-) We used to on live, dreaming of the dmg from a 2h PA with troll str. This being said, luri champ/hero can be very nice, knew a few back in the days on live.

Thu 30 May 2019 6:51 AM by easytoremember

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Wed 29 May 2019 5:00 PM
And firby is the best piercing BM.. Not sure how a luri would be better?? They have less combined str/dex/con

Also saracen have better stats for thrust merc than luri for piercing bm

20 dex is 1% block and 1% parry, any combination of 40 dex/qui is 1% evade
The first 50 points of dex & qui are moot for defenses
You're also dismissing the advantage of the luri's tiny size
Further when you see a dualwielding luri he's definitely a sneak- luri bm revokes that

While only the parry/evade really matters at all it's only evade that is 360•

Saracen merc isn't hib

A little bonus is the recent change to charges make firbolg waste more points on Aug QUI than previously if you want cap swing

Thu 30 May 2019 10:42 AM by Bradekes

easytoremember wrote: ↑
Thu 30 May 2019 6:51 AM
Bradekes wrote: ↑
Wed 29 May 2019 5:00 PM
And firby is the best piercing BM.. Not sure how a luri would be better?? They have less combined str/dex/con

Also saracen have better stats for thrust merc than luri for piercing bm
20 dex is 1% block and 1% parry, any combination of 40 dex/qui is 1% evade
The first 50 points of dex & qui are moot for defenses
You're also dismissing the advantage of the luri's tiny size
Further when you see a dualwielding luri he's definitely a sneak- luri bm revokes that

While only the parry/evade really matters at all it's only evade that is 360•

Saracen merc isn't hib

A little bonus is the recent change to charges make firbolg waste more points on Aug QUI than previously if you want cap swing

So your saying 0.25% more block parry evade vs an elf bm is just god awefully broken the combination of a luri BM is unthinkable? Or the fact that luri has the exact same dex/str as a celt and maybe 1% more evasion it's unthinkable..

Your only real argument is size as race stats aren't exactly game breakingly different from what already available.. Avalonian can be merc but no one rolls one and that's how elf BM should be..

Just because it's hib you have a problem with the idea?? So prejudiced.. It's not going to happen anyways.. The phoenix team probably won't make changes to race/class combo for a really long time or maybe after people get bored with 1.65...

Also people would adapt to new race class combos, not everyone's brain is stuck in a vacuum like some of these "no change" people are to the arbitrary.

Thu 30 May 2019 10:41 PM by easytoremember

I never said they were gamebreaking stat differences- my point is you're changing the overall race distribution with the custom changes

It's not an issue of big brain meta identifying a class by their race, the original race/class pairings is DAoC
Quit butchering it

Fri 31 May 2019 2:33 PM by Bradekes

easytoremember wrote: ↑
Thu 30 May 2019 10:41 PM
I never said they were gamebreaking stat differences- my point is you're changing the overall race distribution with the custom changes

It's not an issue of big brain meta identifying a class by their race, the original race/class pairings is DAoC
Quit butchering it

Wahh Luri blademasters ruined the game for me!!

*cry

Sat 1 Jun 2019 8:20 PM by easytoremember

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Fri 31 May 2019 2:33 PM
Wahh Luri blademasters ruined the game for me!! *cry

Remove stealth, remove stealth req of CS styles (bs/pa opening damage removed, growthrate applied) raise assassin/archer melee damage inline to zerk/merc/bm, and I'll concede to you luri bm

Otherwise next is
dwarf sb
highlander friar
shar eldritch
norse shaman
avalonian minstrel

and so forth
You can twist reasoning to justify any class/race combination
So no

Sun 2 Jun 2019 1:19 AM by Bradekes

easytoremember wrote: ↑
Sat 1 Jun 2019 8:20 PM
Bradekes wrote: ↑
Fri 31 May 2019 2:33 PM
Wahh Luri blademasters ruined the game for me!! *cry
Remove stealth, remove stealth req of CS styles (bs/pa opening damage removed, growthrate applied) raise assassin/archer melee damage inline to zerk/merc/bm, and I'll concede to you luri bm

Otherwise next is
dwarf sb
highlander friar
shar eldritch
norse shaman
avalonian minstrel

and so forth
You can twist reasoning to justify any class/race combination
So no

what is wrong with all those class/race combos? I think people are way to sensitive about the subject

Sun 2 Jun 2019 5:06 PM by Hejjin

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Sun 2 Jun 2019 1:19 AM
easytoremember wrote: ↑
Sat 1 Jun 2019 8:20 PM
Bradekes wrote: ↑
Fri 31 May 2019 2:33 PM
Wahh Luri blademasters ruined the game for me!! *cry
Remove stealth, remove stealth req of CS styles (bs/pa opening damage removed, growthrate applied) raise assassin/archer melee damage inline to zerk/merc/bm, and I'll concede to you luri bm

Otherwise next is
dwarf sb
highlander friar
shar eldritch
norse shaman
avalonian minstrel

and so forth
You can twist reasoning to justify any class/race combination
So no

what is wrong with all those class/race combos? I think people are way to sensitive about the subject

..and the list missed out Saracen Friar...;-)

Tue 4 Jun 2019 3:16 AM by teiloh

Let us make luri tacos

Tue 4 Jun 2019 9:54 PM by easytoremember

Saracen heathen becoming a Friar or Cleric is peak heresy

Wed 5 Jun 2019 12:33 PM by Cruella

easytoremember wrote: ↑
Tue 4 Jun 2019 9:54 PM
Saracen heathen becoming a Friar or Cleric is peak heresy

...and paladins!....wait.... dang!

Wed 5 Jun 2019 7:38 PM by easytoremember

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