hybrids need fixing - stoicism issue

There is still a huge mentality of 'meta picks' when building a group of melees. You still dont see many hybrid classes because stoicism is that big of a deal.

1) Consider adding stoicism to all hybrids,
2) lower the values of stoicism, instead of 25% drop it to 5 or 10%
3) or remove stoicism completely from the game (however this option would make caster groups meta).

What do you think ?

Wed 14 Nov 2018 11:01 AM by Smilo

Sure as long as pure tanks get the ability to cast spells and all the cool RAs hybrids get. Static tempest etc...

Actually, lets make all the classes exactly the same, so that the game will be balanced.

Wed 14 Nov 2018 11:50 AM by Druth

Smilo wrote: ↑
Wed 14 Nov 2018 11:01 AM
Sure as long as pure tanks get the ability to cast spells and all the cool RAs hybrids get. Static tempest etc...

Actually, lets make all the classes exactly the same, so that the game will be balanced.

Pure tanks and light tanks gets higher hp's, higher ws, and higher anytime damage.

They get purge and IP at discount (total saved 10 RA points), and gets stoicism for free and no others having access to it.

Wed 14 Nov 2018 12:02 PM by Smilo

Yeah. And there are just as many things they DONT get (buffs, debuffs, DDs).
So... whats your point?
The whole premise of stoicism being a big deal is wrong. Determination was a big deal, and it was given to hybrids.

There are some hybrids that could still use a buff (champs?) but making them as resistant to CC as pure tanks isnt the right way to do it.

Wed 14 Nov 2018 1:45 PM by Sei

ljorka wrote: ↑
Wed 14 Nov 2018 10:41 AM
There is still a huge mentality of 'meta picks' when building a group of melees. You still dont see many hybrid classes because stoicism is that big of a deal.

1) Consider adding stoicism to all hybrids,
2) lower the values of stoicism, instead of 25% drop it to 5 or 10%
3) or remove stoicism completely from the game (however this option would make caster groups meta).

What do you think ?

1) IS just putting out if the meta pure mele
2 and 3) IS nerfing mele setup and you rly dont want this

Hybrids are not completely out of meta as your are suggesting today they are still possible and viable choice with certain set up

Wed 14 Nov 2018 5:10 PM by defiasbandit

Hybrids are fine.

Thu 15 Nov 2018 7:05 AM by Druth

Smilo wrote: ↑
Wed 14 Nov 2018 12:02 PM
Yeah. And there are just as many things they DONT get (buffs, debuffs, DDs).
So... whats your point?
The whole premise of stoicism being a big deal is wrong. Determination was a big deal, and it was given to hybrids.

There are some hybrids that could still use a buff (champs?) but making them as resistant to CC as pure tanks isnt the right way to do it.

Ignore parts of what I said, NF RA's means no discount.

I don't think hybrids are bad, they are great solo/smallman, but in groups stoicism is just to strong to ignore.

Forgot the NF RA stuff changed RA cost. So my point was invalid.