Debate on hypothetical changes to Active RA's?

This 10 minute reuse instant port action pump and dump gameplay feels ugh...
What would happin if we changed some of the major group actives to look something like:

Speed of Sound Level: 1 - 30 second buff - 30 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 2 - 30 second buff - 25 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 3 - 30 second buff - 20 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 4 - 30 second buff - 15 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 5 - 30 second buff - 10 minute cooldown

Barrier of Fortitude: 1 - 30 second buff - 30 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 2 - 30 second buff - 25 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 3 - 30 second buff - 20 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 4 - 30 second buff - 15 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 5 - 30 second buff - 10 minute cooldown

Purge level: 1 - instant - 30 minute cooldown
Purge level: 2 - instant - 20 minute cooldown
Purge level: 3 - instant - 10 minute cooldown
Purge level: 4 - instant - 7.5 minute cooldown
Purge level: 5 - instant - 5 minute cooldown

I feel like MoC is weak as hell compared to the other actives, that RA actually requires a big investment for its value which is what active ra's are supposed to be like

thoughts?

Sat 2 Mar 2019 10:35 AM by Luluko

nah it would make sos a dead ra especially for solo no point in wasting points in something which is only available every 25/30minutes

Sat 2 Mar 2019 10:41 AM by Tanakeo

Luluko wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 10:35 AM
nah it would make sos a dead ra especially for solo no point in wasting points in something which is only available every 25/30minutes

i mean comming from a solo caster, 9/10 skalds sos the quickcast cc... i mean people are blowing ra's because there is practically no cooldown.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 11:28 AM by krumr

Tanakeo wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 9:51 AM
This 10 minute reuse instant port action pump and dump gameplay feels ugh...
What would happin if we changed some of the major group actives to look something like:

Speed of Sound Level: 1 - 30 second buff - 30 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 2 - 30 second buff - 25 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 3 - 30 second buff - 20 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 4 - 30 second buff - 15 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 5 - 30 second buff - 10 minute cooldown

Barrier of Fortitude: 1 - 30 second buff - 30 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 2 - 30 second buff - 25 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 3 - 30 second buff - 20 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 4 - 30 second buff - 15 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 5 - 30 second buff - 10 minute cooldown

Purge level: 1 - instant - 30 minute cooldown
Purge level: 2 - instant - 20 minute cooldown
Purge level: 3 - instant - 10 minute cooldown
Purge level: 4 - instant - 7.5 minute cooldown
Purge level: 5 - instant - 5 minute cooldown

I feel like MoC is weak as hell compared to the other actives, that RA actually requires a big investment for its value which is what active ra's are supposed to be like

thoughts?

I find it interesting that one of the most (but that's an euphemism) controversial active RA, Vanish, is not on that list despite this post being about "hypothetical changes".

Sat 2 Mar 2019 12:38 PM by Tanakeo

krumr wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 11:28 AM
Tanakeo wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 9:51 AM
This 10 minute reuse instant port action pump and dump gameplay feels ugh...
What would happin if we changed some of the major group actives to look something like:

Speed of Sound Level: 1 - 30 second buff - 30 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 2 - 30 second buff - 25 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 3 - 30 second buff - 20 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 4 - 30 second buff - 15 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 5 - 30 second buff - 10 minute cooldown

Barrier of Fortitude: 1 - 30 second buff - 30 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 2 - 30 second buff - 25 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 3 - 30 second buff - 20 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 4 - 30 second buff - 15 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 5 - 30 second buff - 10 minute cooldown

Purge level: 1 - instant - 30 minute cooldown
Purge level: 2 - instant - 20 minute cooldown
Purge level: 3 - instant - 10 minute cooldown
Purge level: 4 - instant - 7.5 minute cooldown
Purge level: 5 - instant - 5 minute cooldown

I feel like MoC is weak as hell compared to the other actives, that RA actually requires a big investment for its value which is what active ra's are supposed to be like

thoughts?

I find it interesting that one of the most (but that's an euphemism) controversial active RA, Vanish, is not on that list despite this post being about "hypothetical changes".

Vanish as it is now should be level 2, its deffinitely a strong 5point ra

Sat 2 Mar 2019 1:49 PM by Luluko

Tanakeo wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 10:41 AM
Luluko wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 10:35 AM
nah it would make sos a dead ra especially for solo no point in wasting points in something which is only available every 25/30minutes

i mean comming from a solo caster, 9/10 skalds sos the quickcast cc... i mean people are blowing ra's because there is practically no cooldown.

any decent skald would use insta mezz for that in 1vs1 situations

Sat 2 Mar 2019 3:31 PM by krumr

Tanakeo wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 12:38 PM
krumr wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 11:28 AM
Tanakeo wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 9:51 AM
This 10 minute reuse instant port action pump and dump gameplay feels ugh...
What would happin if we changed some of the major group actives to look something like:

Speed of Sound Level: 1 - 30 second buff - 30 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 2 - 30 second buff - 25 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 3 - 30 second buff - 20 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 4 - 30 second buff - 15 minute cooldown
Speed of Sound Level: 5 - 30 second buff - 10 minute cooldown

Barrier of Fortitude: 1 - 30 second buff - 30 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 2 - 30 second buff - 25 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 3 - 30 second buff - 20 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 4 - 30 second buff - 15 minute cooldown
Barrier of Fortitude: 5 - 30 second buff - 10 minute cooldown

Purge level: 1 - instant - 30 minute cooldown
Purge level: 2 - instant - 20 minute cooldown
Purge level: 3 - instant - 10 minute cooldown
Purge level: 4 - instant - 7.5 minute cooldown
Purge level: 5 - instant - 5 minute cooldown

I feel like MoC is weak as hell compared to the other actives, that RA actually requires a big investment for its value which is what active ra's are supposed to be like

thoughts?

I find it interesting that one of the most (but that's an euphemism) controversial active RA, Vanish, is not on that list despite this post being about "hypothetical changes".

Vanish as it is now should be level 2, its deffinitely a strong 5point ra

I don't envy the devs at all: while your points, even on SoS, may probably be valid, it's nevertheless going to be a lot of work to re-balance all these RAs, both by themselves and also in regards to the general game (as in, class) balance.

Mon 4 Mar 2019 1:06 PM by Tanakeo

krumr wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 3:31 PM
Tanakeo wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 12:38 PM
krumr wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 11:28 AM
I find it interesting that one of the most (but that's an euphemism) controversial active RA, Vanish, is not on that list despite this post being about "hypothetical changes".

Vanish as it is now should be level 2, its deffinitely a strong 5point ra

I don't envy the devs at all: while your points, even on SoS, may probably be valid, it's nevertheless going to be a lot of work to re-balance all these RAs, both by themselves and also in regards to the general game (as in, class) balance.

i mean if we look at the content... its old frontiers, but with instant port action, were not even waiting on rez sickness, u land a blanket mezz on a group and 6 of them instantly purge just by default, u have solo'ers sos to get a tag on kills, and u dont see this on rare occasion, this is how people play lol, big groupbased cooldowns, needs to have an actual cooldown, this 10 min reuse on everything is super op, and it gives lower rank players an even harder time to win cus it doesnt matter if u inc a pug or u inc some of the heavy hitters, chances of them having every single button up is pretty high, and gl beating the high ranked guild groups with every player dumping 2-3 big coolies just because why not...