Darkness Falls Needs Better Rewards

Started 25 Feb 2019
by defiasbandit
in Suggestions
Right now its way easier to just get feathers in Sidi, Galla, or TG. Why not make the rewards much better in Darkness Falls?

Increase the Darkness Falls feather drops. Add unique items and reskins to the seals merchant in DF.

Make DF the best PvE farming spot. Make the Realm Tasks more competitive and less of a treadmill.
Mon 25 Feb 2019 8:54 PM by PingGuy
No, please just stop it. You've spent half the day posting the same thing over and over again about how you think defenders shouldn't be able to port into the task. Now this will be the next thing you spam every thread with.

When the tasks are the main thing driving RvR activity on this server, why would they shut that off for half the day? What if I have an hour to go RvR and it's not the hour that the task is running? /quit

If that keeps happening, then I'm less likely to log back in. Just accept that people like the tasks, or at least that they are doing them. I think you might get better reception for your ideas if you:

#1 Didn't spam them all over the place.
#2 Stop liking your own posts. We know you like them, you made them. It's just annoying at this point.

Seriously, I don't disagree with all of your ideas, but I feel like you just spam us with every thought you have over and over again.
Mon 25 Feb 2019 8:55 PM by Quik
The DF idea is interesting but would cause issues I think.

Right now if your realm takes DF you can assume you will have it for at least half a day meaning you can build a gtroup and xp there.

If you made it based on the 1 hour task abd who won, I have a feeling a lot of players would get discouraged and just not go there as much.

Also please do not touch the feathers. If feathers are not mainly attained by PvE, you will kill PvE for a lot of people. Yes I understand a lot of people want to just RvR, but a lot of people also enjoy PvE and there is no reason to take that from them.

Right now as I see it there is a balance...

RvR players get tons of RP's and want feathers to compete because they can't get many feathers in RvR...

PvE players may not enjoy RvR as much so will never have as many RP's as the RvR player, but in exchange they will get a lot more feathers which allows them to make money selling to the RvR player.

RP's are attained mainly through RvR and Feathers are attained mainly in PvE...a balance I think the game needs or you will lose the PvE aspect...many freeshards have failed from focusing just on RvR....Pheonix has done a great job of keeping BOTH relevant so lets not try to kill one just to make one better...
Mon 25 Feb 2019 8:58 PM by defiasbandit
Quik wrote:
Mon 25 Feb 2019 8:55 PM
The DF idea is interesting but would cause issues I think.

Right now if your realm takes DF you can assume you will have it for at least half a day meaning you can build a gtroup and xp there.

If you made it based on the 1 hour task abd who won, I have a feeling a lot of players would get discouraged and just not go there as much.

Also please do not touch the feathers. If feathers are not mainly attained by PvE, you will kill PvE for a lot of people. Yes I understand a lot of people want to just RvR, but a lot of people also enjoy PvE and there is no reason to take that from them.

Right now as I see it there is a balance...

RvR players get tons of RP's and want feathers to compete because they can't get many feathers in RvR...

PvE players may not enjoy RvR as much so will never have as many RP's as the RvR player, but in exchange they will get a lot more feathers which allows them to make money selling to the RvR player.

RP's are attained mainly through RvR and Feathers are attained mainly in PvE...a balance I think the game needs or you will lose the PvE aspect...many freeshards have failed from focusing just on RvR....Pheonix has done a great job of keeping BOTH relevant so lets not try to kill one just to make one better...

That is fine. Although, I do think DF should have more feathers or unique rewards so players want to farm there.

I do think having a 1 hour break between tasks would be good. If a realm won the task, they would control DF for 2 hours.
Mon 25 Feb 2019 9:13 PM by PingGuy
Let me come at this from another angle. What do you think people who normally would be running the tasks would do for an hour if there is no task during that time?
Mon 25 Feb 2019 9:51 PM by keen
Someone inserted a coin into the randomidea slot machine again.
Mon 25 Feb 2019 10:13 PM by defiasbandit
PingGuy wrote:
Mon 25 Feb 2019 9:13 PM
Let me come at this from another angle. What do you think people who normally would be running the tasks would do for an hour if there is no task during that time?

They would being doing other types of RvR and PvE. They could be securing Keeps in the next task. Lets say the next task is in Midgard, they could use the 1 hour task break to secure keeos there to give them an advantage whe mid task starys.
Mon 25 Feb 2019 11:51 PM by Luluko
defiasbandit wrote:
Mon 25 Feb 2019 10:13 PM
PingGuy wrote:
Mon 25 Feb 2019 9:13 PM
Let me come at this from another angle. What do you think people who normally would be running the tasks would do for an hour if there is no task during that time?

They would being doing other types of RvR and PvE. They could be securing Keeps in the next task. Lets say the next task is in Midgard, they could use the 1 hour task break to secure keeos there to give them an advantage whe mid task starys.

they would be lfg for hours and prlly be afk or logg out if they play a supoptimal class for rvr and if they dont want the hassle of forming a grp themself
Tue 26 Feb 2019 12:08 AM by defiasbandit
Luluko wrote:
Mon 25 Feb 2019 11:51 PM
defiasbandit wrote:
Mon 25 Feb 2019 10:13 PM
PingGuy wrote:
Mon 25 Feb 2019 9:13 PM
Let me come at this from another angle. What do you think people who normally would be running the tasks would do for an hour if there is no task during that time?

They would being doing other types of RvR and PvE. They could be securing Keeps in the next task. Lets say the next task is in Midgard, they could use the 1 hour task break to secure keeos there to give them an advantage whe mid task starys.

they would be lfg for hours and prlly be afk or logg out if they play a supoptimal class for rvr and if they dont want the hassle of forming a grp themself

I partly agree with you on that. I still think something like DF control should be part of Realm Tasks, even if there is no break in between tasks. Win the realm task and control DF.
Tue 26 Feb 2019 12:27 AM by defiasbandit
PingGuy wrote:
Mon 25 Feb 2019 8:54 PM
No, please just stop it. You've spent half the day posting the same thing over and over again about how you think defenders shouldn't be able to port into the task. Now this will be the next thing you spam every thread with.

When the tasks are the main thing driving RvR activity on this server, why would they shut that off for half the day? What if I have an hour to go RvR and it's not the hour that the task is running? /quit

If that keeps happening, then I'm less likely to log back in. Just accept that people like the tasks, or at least that they are doing them. I think you might get better reception for your ideas if you:

#1 Didn't spam them all over the place.
#2 Stop liking your own posts. We know you like them, you made them. It's just annoying at this point.

Seriously, I don't disagree with all of your ideas, but I feel like you just spam us with every thought you have over and over again.

I don't want them turned off, but I know some players do. The tasks should run 24/7, but I think the realm that wins the Realm Task should gain control of DF. Even if your realm loses control of DF you can still stay in there longer than the 1 hour your realm held it for.

They should drastically buff the reward in Darkness Falls as well.

Right now DF control is determined by the realm that takes the most empty keeps. That's stupid. DF rewards should be much better.
Wed 27 Feb 2019 9:15 AM by Sepplord
DF rewards already are the highest you can get, few farms could compete with DF farm BEFORE feathers/ROGs.
People farmed DF only for seals before, now they get ROGs and feathers on top of the already good DF farm.

People just don't need that much money here, since most can get away easily with 99%-temps instead of needing MP-sets. And the most expensive part of every set, the chest is also replaced.


Upping DF rewards doesn't make it more attractive, if you want to make DF farm more relevant you need to up the goldsinks (and i am quite sure that would not be taken positively by the majority)
Wed 27 Feb 2019 9:41 AM by Durgrim
Add a restriction to forum accounts, that if they created a post in suggestion section, they cannot create another thread for at least 30 days unless their previous post got 20 likes or so....
this would save us a lot of time
Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:46 AM by Durgrim
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 27 Feb 2019 9:15 AM
DF rewards already are the highest you can get, few farms could compete with DF farm BEFORE feathers/ROGs.
People farmed DF only for seals before, now they get ROGs and feathers on top of the already good DF farm.

People just don't need that much money here, since most can get away easily with 99%-temps instead of needing MP-sets. And the most expensive part of every set, the chest is also replaced.


Upping DF rewards doesn't make it more attractive, if you want to make DF farm more relevant you need to up the goldsinks (and i am quite sure that would not be taken positively by the majority)

I was thinking about a goldsink here as well...you are absolutely right with all above stated bits n pieces. The only gold sink I could imagine were to increase the matprices for the buff potions by couple hundred percents. Since everyone is running around with the combined forces & endu it becomes state of the art and they are the most fluctuant bulk consumable goods on Phoenix.

apart from that, back to topic:
DF is still one of the most interesting places to level due to triple tasks. the massive feather, high rog, gold and diamond seal gain when professionally farming downstairs is not comparable to anything efficiency wise.
I do not agree and would not support the OP's idea.
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