Class changes! - Phoenix Freeshard

So now when stealther got totally nerfeded. archery dmg nerf and stealth in grp nerf, its time for some visi nerfs.
I would like to see ministrel change so they can max charm a yellow pet, Reduce the time from mess for example. Necro would def need a change not realistic that a low rr solo necromancer can kill 2-3 players.

Sun 10 May 2020 3:43 AM by Azrael

I would like to see that my class is the best one and beats every other class.

Mon 11 May 2020 1:24 AM by joshisanonymous

lol I love that you view archery damage being increased then decreased slightly but still overall a net increase as a nerf. I'm sympathetic to what the stealth change means for stealthers, but you are not gonna win anyone over by claiming that a buff is actually a nerf and then demanding absurd nerfs to other classes.

Mon 11 May 2020 5:33 PM by Quik

adirannux wrote: ↑
Sun 10 May 2020 12:45 AM
So now when stealther got totally nerfeded. archery dmg nerf and stealth in grp nerf, its time for some visi nerfs.
I would like to see ministrel change so they can max charm a yellow pet, Reduce the time from mess for example. Necro would def need a change not realistic that a low rr solo necromancer can kill 2-3 players.

So what you are really saying is, plz nerf Alb in general? And isn't a Minstrel a stealth class technically so nerfing his pet to yellow would be a stealthier nerf again...right?

Mon 11 May 2020 10:26 PM by teiloh

adirannux wrote: ↑
Sun 10 May 2020 12:45 AM
I would like to see ministrel change so they can max charm a yellow pet

I would like to see Shadowblades and NS only be able to use level 20 weapons at most, and Rangers and Hunters only use level 15 bows.

Fri 15 May 2020 7:59 PM by Durzo

Shocker, someone who doesn’t play alb only advocating for alb class nerfs. Awfully interesting. If you want your point to be taken seriously try and atleast give the illusion you’re unbiased.

Mon 18 May 2020 2:36 PM by Sek

i love reading people blaming minstrel for x or y when they unable to kill them due to a huge lack of knowledge, perhaps you should start a minstrel yourself if you care about raising your macro level to figure out how nerfed this class already is. It is not difficult to clear a minstrel on an assassin class when you know how the mechanics work which you don't since you are not aware that red pets often deal less damage than yellow/orange ones.
Good luck, have fun, may the purge always help you in your quest of wisdom.

Tue 19 May 2020 7:28 AM by Noashakra

Sek wrote: ↑
Mon 18 May 2020 2:36 PM
i love reading people blaming minstrel for x or y when they unable to kill them due to a huge lack of knowledge, perhaps you should start a minstrel yourself if you care about raising your macro level to figure out how nerfed this class already is. It is not difficult to clear a minstrel on an assassin class when you know how the mechanics work which you don't since you are not aware that red pets often deal less damage than yellow/orange ones.
Good luck, have fun, may the purge always help you in your quest of wisdom.

A good ministel is impossible to kill and will destroy you even without a pet, a bad one will just flee when he is going to lose. A red pet you can't kill is better than an orange that dps a bit more but takes 5 swings to kill...
Stop living in your bubble.

Tue 19 May 2020 1:56 PM by Sek

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Tue 19 May 2020 7:28 AM
Sek wrote: ↑
Mon 18 May 2020 2:36 PM
i love reading people blaming minstrel for x or y when they unable to kill them due to a huge lack of knowledge, perhaps you should start a minstrel yourself if you care about raising your macro level to figure out how nerfed this class already is. It is not difficult to clear a minstrel on an assassin class when you know how the mechanics work which you don't since you are not aware that red pets often deal less damage than yellow/orange ones.
Good luck, have fun, may the purge always help you in your quest of wisdom.

A good ministel is impossible to kill and will destroy you even without a pet, a bad one will just flee when he is going to lose. A red pet you can't kill is better than an orange that dps a bit more but takes 5 swings to kill...
Stop living in your bubble.

I have often cleared minstrel on 1v1 with skald & shaman,i have no other 50 on mid/hib beside healer sadly. If you complaining about SOS you may as well blame skald and bard, they cannot be killed at all.. what a shame.

Tue 19 May 2020 1:59 PM by Noashakra

Sek wrote: ↑
Tue 19 May 2020 1:56 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Tue 19 May 2020 7:28 AM
Sek wrote: ↑
Mon 18 May 2020 2:36 PM
i love reading people blaming minstrel for x or y when they unable to kill them due to a huge lack of knowledge, perhaps you should start a minstrel yourself if you care about raising your macro level to figure out how nerfed this class already is. It is not difficult to clear a minstrel on an assassin class when you know how the mechanics work which you don't since you are not aware that red pets often deal less damage than yellow/orange ones.
Good luck, have fun, may the purge always help you in your quest of wisdom.

A good ministel is impossible to kill and will destroy you even without a pet, a bad one will just flee when he is going to lose. A red pet you can't kill is better than an orange that dps a bit more but takes 5 swings to kill...
Stop living in your bubble.
I have often cleared minstrel on 1v1 with skald & shaman,i have no other 50 on mid/hib beside healer sadly. If you complaining about SOS you may as well blame skald and bard, they cannot be killed at all.. what a shame.

the bard can't kill anything man, and yeah the skald is a bit too OP on this serv. Was it the subject though?

Tue 19 May 2020 2:05 PM by Sek

you are affirming that minstrel cant be killed because they will always be able to flee, bard and skald can flee, i invite you to check on youtube : daoc phoenix solo shaman and such, you may be astonished to witness what some people are capable of against minstrel and not only low one, there are multiple trick to denie a minstrel of his pet " advantage " and to prevent it from fleeing, minstrel is in a very bad shape compared to its golden age, check out some video and give a try yourself.

Tue 19 May 2020 2:26 PM by Noashakra

Sek wrote: ↑
Tue 19 May 2020 2:05 PM
you are affirming that minstrel cant be killed because they will always be able to flee, bard and skald can flee, i invite you to check on youtube : daoc phoenix solo shaman and such, you may be astonished to witness what some people are capable of against minstrel and not only low one, there are multiple trick to denie a minstrel of his pet " advantage " and to prevent it from fleeing, minstrel is in a very bad shape compared to its golden age, check out some video and give a try yourself.

Dude, are you really speaking about shamans? They can only do somthing if they have moc up vs a ministrel... You will show me video of shamans RA dumping am sure. And if the ministrel is not retarded, he will cc the shaman and not die even with sos down.
The bard is not a problem because how many bards solo did you see on this serv lol...

Ah yeah the golden age is over for them, they can only do 2vs1 and not 3vs1. QQ.
Nobody takes you seriously on the 2 posts you made about the mincer. It's maybe time to stop the damage.

Tue 19 May 2020 3:13 PM by Sek

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Tue 19 May 2020 2:26 PM
Sek wrote: ↑
Tue 19 May 2020 2:05 PM
you are affirming that minstrel cant be killed because they will always be able to flee, bard and skald can flee, i invite you to check on youtube : daoc phoenix solo shaman and such, you may be astonished to witness what some people are capable of against minstrel and not only low one, there are multiple trick to denie a minstrel of his pet " advantage " and to prevent it from fleeing, minstrel is in a very bad shape compared to its golden age, check out some video and give a try yourself.

Dude, are you really speaking about shamans? They can only do somthing if they have moc up vs a ministrel... You will show me video of shamans RA dumping am sure. And if the ministrel is not retarded, he will cc the shaman and not die even with sos down.
The bard is not a problem because how many bards solo did you see on this serv lol...

Ah yeah the golden age is over for them, they can only do 2vs1 and not 3vs1. QQ.
Nobody takes you seriously on the 2 posts you made about the mincer. It's maybe time to stop the damage.

You do not always need MOC to clear a minstrel.. with art and dex high enough you can just play with LOS even with 1500 Range spells, let a target come toward you while you stand your ground after kiting then you will have cast advantage, as simple as that. The one running toward you even with single mezz chant rupt wont have the upper hand, same goes with any cast, kite => stand & cast => kite etc.. beside RA are part of the game, if one complain minstrel has sos and can flee, why shouldn't shaman be able to burn ichor or moc ? Shaman can kill anything even its nemesis which are assassins's classes but it requires ichor+moc yes.

I can already do 2v1 with ras up, depends who i am facing.. main issue is the DET up on hybrid classes that prevent me from abusing it, as well as the pet damage but i am still having fun yet it do not believe a lvl 57-62 pets dealing 50-150 dmg a swing is legit, too bad few people do not share my point of view in here but it wont stop me from complaining about such change.

Tue 19 May 2020 4:32 PM by Noashakra

Yeah the ministrel has to be an idiot for the shaman to win. Ok I already knew that...