Base Stats Spec Stats debuffs unballanced

Started 7 Jan 2021
by Egonek
in Suggestions
Base Stats debuffs:

Midgard:
1. BD
2. RM
3. SM

I think in Standart 8er setups more mids run with 2 caster as with 1.
After the Patch with new basenuke we have maybe more midcaster grps.

So mids run to 90% with 1-3 base debuffs in grp.

Albion:
1.Sorc
2. Kaba

Alb caster setups are often with 2x sorc 1-2 caba. = 3-4 base debuffer
Tanker= 1 sorc/theurg/cab = min. 1 base debuffer

Hibernia
1. ELDRITCH!!!

Tanker setup= 1%chance for an eld in grp?. max 1 base debuffer
Caster setup= 1x eld = 1x base stats debuffer.

For more balance i wish more hib caster get BASE stats debuffs!

Spec stats debuffs:

Sorc
SM
Eld.

I dont understand why we have here a difference on the Radius from the debuffs. For example:

SM s/c Debuff: All time 400 Radius.
Sorc s/c Debuff: All time 350 Radius.

SM d/q Debuff: All time 250 Radius.
Sorc d/q Debuff: no matter if its Matter or Body Line: all time 350 Radius.

Sorc and SM dont have any disadvantage on Radius if they use a lvl 20 or a lvl 50 Spec debuff. They is realy great for the split specs! and every sorc or SM has a split spec.
If albs play 2x sorc 1x body 1xmind you get both spec debuffs red.

WHY!! TO Hell!! Eld:

You spec 50 Mana 20 Light = only s/c AOE debuffs and d/q single debuff.
s/c debuff: First aoe Debuff with lvl 28 only 200 Radius. 38 Debuff 275. 48 debuff 350.
d/q debuff: First aoe debuff with lvl 25 only 200 Radius. 36 debuff 275. 46 debuff 350.

Alb/mids has a big advantage with combi aoe debuffs.

Hibs has a big. disadvantage

I think we do here somethink with a bit balance?
Thu 7 Jan 2021 11:22 PM by Iuppiter
Not against increasing the aoe radii to be equal per say, but to make a fair change you would also need to balance value and power cost in addition to what you've already mentioned.

In the format of (spell lvl - value/power) and looking at a subset of the debuffs - but feel free to do whatever wacky spec comparisons you want to make
Sorc :
S/C : 33 - 54/27 || 43 - 66/36
D/Q : 29 - 49/24 || 37 - 58/31 || 47 - 70/40

SM :
S/C : 25 - 45/20
D/Q : 46 - 69/30

Eld :
S/C : 28 - 48/17
D/Q : 46 - 69/24

So the eld d/q debuff @ 350 radius is actually the most power efficient stat debuff out of these three classes for example and still has the largest D/Q radius.
Thu 7 Jan 2021 11:34 PM by ExcretusMaximus
This. Is. Not. WoW.

Abilities. Are. Not. MIrrored.

Get. Over. It.
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