Alternative to consumale respec stones

Started 12 Sep 2018
by schreon
in Suggestions
Hello,

there are classes that can choose 1 spec and use that for group, solo play, PvE play, and be done with it.

Some classes however need frequent respecs if they want to change from group play to solo play. Also, there are some classes which should be specced differently depending on the group setup: If you run a Hib group with 2 bards, it makes much more sense to spec one bard to 0 songs and increase his regrowth instead. However, that bard will never find a group without there being a second bard. Hence, only hardcore players who either only run in a set group or can afford to respec every evening will benefit from this.

Hence, I want to make the following suggestion:

Introduce a new kind of specialization stone that can be bought for a significant amount of feathers and is character bound then. Initially, that specialization stone is empty. You can go to a certain NPC, hand it to him. The stone now saves your current spec. However, the spec can only be saved if you spent almost all your specialization points (only very few may remain. this is important to prevent abuse).

You can now buy a second specialization stone and save another spec in it. Now you can always switch between those specs by using the stone. In order to prevent abuse, those stones can only be used in PvE zones (exactly like the personal bindstone).

From now on that character can indefinetly swap between this limited set of specs. He has to think carefully about his specs, because once he has saves a spec in one of the stones, that can't be reverted. If he wants to add another spec to his pool, he will have to buy another one of these feather-intensive goodies.

Something similar could be done for RA-Specializations. However that is a bit problematic because you continue gaining RA points and if you set your spec once at RR1 you basically get a free RA respec all the time. Maybe make this just a QoL-item which can be reset to other RA-specs all the time, but has charges that need to be recharged at the recharger NPC that cost gold equivalent to the value of a RA respec. However I am not quite certain about this.
Wed 12 Sep 2018 8:28 PM by Ganaka
This is a great idea. Many modern games have "roles" that can be swapped back and forth.

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Why not just do away with respec stones entirely? Give everyone unlimited respecs, even at level 50. I'm being serious...

The devs would then avoid the headache of an angry mob, pun intended, after they hand down a nerf after the server goes live. People will want a free respec if their fav class gets neutered.

New players will learn their class easier due to respeccing to meet group needs. This could help get them more involved socially, instead of being treated as an outcast due to ignorance of the meta. The nuances and quirks of the game might turn away truly new players.

It's fun to respec sometimes. Maybe for a for a change of pace or convenience. "Choices matter" and other hardcore aspects are why many of us love this server and patch level, but let's not lose sight of having fun.
Wed 12 Sep 2018 8:56 PM by defiasbandit
Ya I don't see the big deal about making respecs free.
Wed 12 Sep 2018 9:40 PM by Takii
In a way it removes specialization from the identity of your character. It basically makes you not really specialized at all. You aren't a Fire Wizard, you're just a Wizard.

I understand where this request comes from but I don't know if it really belongs in this game tbh. You would also need to implement other things with this in order to make it not a pain in the ass, such as having presets of quickbars like you have in WoW. Otherwise it won't be very usable if you have to setup your bars every single time you respec.
Wed 12 Sep 2018 10:52 PM by schreon
Yes, I see these drawback that a character's special identity and possibly fame may diminish. However, I tend to believe that the benefits coming with easy respecs would outweigh that. Especially in face of the vision of a casual friendly server.

Regarding quickbars, you can circumvent that pain. You have to make copies of your settings for each spec. Then, respec, log out. Copy over your settings for the current spec. Log back in, you got all your bars set up correctly.
Thu 13 Sep 2018 12:00 AM by Falken
No, go back to WoW....jk. Seriously though, respecs will already be obtainable by feathers and feathers farmable in an 8 man group. This is much more attainable than they ever were previously. What you are asking for is a bit ridiculous and over the top. If you want to min/max that much then you should understand the cost that comes with it and accept it or be okay with being 99%hardcore. I plan to play a BD, and all our specs are useful in different situations, but I am still against this. Choices matter, otherwise there really is no more individualization anymore.
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