Allow alchemists to create a speed of the realm potion

As title says, dosent need to be as fast as say speed of the realm, but something to help players who dont have movement speed themselves.

http://www.strawpoll.me/17369155

Tue 5 Feb 2019 2:26 AM by Quik

Plz no...lets stop trying to get every ability on every class.

You pick a class with no speed, be prepared to be slow.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 2:51 AM by defiasbandit

Yes absolutely. The lack of speed on many classes is one of the worst things about this game and makes no sense. Why does a Sorcerer get speed, yet a Wizard gets no speed? Why does runemaster get speed, yet a spirit master does not? How does any of that make sense it does not. The baseline movement speed in the game should be hastener speed. Crafted potions could also be an alternative. it is one of the biggest flaws with DAOC and shortcomings of this server. There is literally no argument against it. Its 2019, yet we are using the same speed mechanics that existed in 2001. How can so many QoL changes happen on this server, yet movement speed, one of the biggest issues in the game is left unchanged. Movement speed and buffing were always highly problematic. Think of how buffbots became the norm. I'd love to argue this one with anyone.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 2:56 AM by Frieza

Theres already a hastner at like every porter.....if you need a pot youre doing something wrong.

The only time i can see where you have a hard time is if youre out in the sticks and need to move....but wait you have your port stone.....

Also you realise by giving everyone speed you remove the incentive of going with some classes vs others yeah? Thats going against CORE logic for the game. never do that.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 3:04 AM by Quik

We are back to the same old argument...lets just give every ability to every class and reduce the number of classes and races per realm to...one.

All I can say to this is, thank god Uthred said they would not add any new pots or add longer duration to pots and that horses would never be implemented in RvR.

Not that it matters but the minute they do add speed boosts I am wondering how many people will leave? I know I will thank everyone for the fun memories and move on to something else. As long as what we have is the most they do to take away from the game I will keep playing.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:01 AM by defiasbandit

Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 3:04 AM
We are back to the same old argument...lets just give every ability to every class and reduce the number of classes and races per realm to...one.

All I can say to this is, thank god Uthred said they would not add any new pots or add longer duration to pots and that horses would never be implemented in RvR.

Not that it matters but the minute they do add speed boosts I am wondering how many people will leave? I know I will thank everyone for the fun memories and move on to something else. As long as what we have is the most they do to take away from the game I will keep playing.

So ignorant. Defending the speed mechanics from 2001 DAOC. Speed was always one of the biggest issues in RvR. Brilliant design. Require players to group with or play 3 of 13 classes in order to RvR. You are missing one of the few speed classes out of 13 therefore you need to run in slow motion. Then you make the comment that you don't want 1 class with everything. Sorcerer have everything including speed. CC, burst damage, dots, run speed, pets, interrupts, etc.. nice argument. Yeah it would break the game if more classes had 154% speed or potions they had to buy. Right.

Explain to me how giving more classes 154% speed affects the game? You have no argument. Yeah I wonder how many players will leave when they get tired of running around without hastener speed across 3 zones. I'm sure you'll be missed.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:44 AM by Quik

defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:01 AM
Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 3:04 AM
We are back to the same old argument...lets just give every ability to every class and reduce the number of classes and races per realm to...one.

All I can say to this is, thank god Uthred said they would not add any new pots or add longer duration to pots and that horses would never be implemented in RvR.

Not that it matters but the minute they do add speed boosts I am wondering how many people will leave? I know I will thank everyone for the fun memories and move on to something else. As long as what we have is the most they do to take away from the game I will keep playing.

So ignorant. Defending the speed mechanics from 2001 DAOC. Speed was always one of the biggest issues in RvR. Brilliant design. Require players to group with or play 3 of 13 classes in order to RvR. You are missing one of the few speed classes out of 13 therefore you need to run in slow motion. Then you make the comment that you don't want 1 class with everything. Sorcerer have everything including speed. CC, burst damage, dots, run speed, pets, interrupts, etc.. nice argument. Yeah it would break the game if more classes had 154% speed or potions they had to buy. Right.

Explain to me how giving more classes 154% speed affects the game? You have no argument. Yeah I wonder how many players will leave when they get tired of running around without hastener speed across 3 zones. I'm sure you'll be missed.

LOL

I won't be missed because Uthred already stated they will NOT add speed pots or speed charge items or horses for RvR.

I am not going to explain something I have stated 100's of times.

Go play Fortnite if you want everyone to have speed and everyone to have buffs and everyone to have...

I LIKE having classes that have unique abilities like speed so that in Hib I need a Bard if I want to go fast...or I take a warden/Ench if I want to just go a little fast. I also understand that if I don't take those classes I won't be going fast at all, so guess what? I get one of those classes. Simple.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:56 AM by defiasbandit

Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:44 AM
defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:01 AM
Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 3:04 AM
We are back to the same old argument...lets just give every ability to every class and reduce the number of classes and races per realm to...one.

All I can say to this is, thank god Uthred said they would not add any new pots or add longer duration to pots and that horses would never be implemented in RvR.

Not that it matters but the minute they do add speed boosts I am wondering how many people will leave? I know I will thank everyone for the fun memories and move on to something else. As long as what we have is the most they do to take away from the game I will keep playing.

So ignorant. Defending the speed mechanics from 2001 DAOC. Speed was always one of the biggest issues in RvR. Brilliant design. Require players to group with or play 3 of 13 classes in order to RvR. You are missing one of the few speed classes out of 13 therefore you need to run in slow motion. Then you make the comment that you don't want 1 class with everything. Sorcerer have everything including speed. CC, burst damage, dots, run speed, pets, interrupts, etc.. nice argument. Yeah it would break the game if more classes had 154% speed or potions they had to buy. Right.

Explain to me how giving more classes 154% speed affects the game? You have no argument. Yeah I wonder how many players will leave when they get tired of running around without hastener speed across 3 zones. I'm sure you'll be missed.

LOL

I won't be missed because Uthred already stated they will NOT add speed pots or speed charge items or horses for RvR.

I am not going to explain something I have stated 100's of times.

Go play Fortnite if you want everyone to have speed and everyone to have buffs and everyone to have...

I LIKE having classes that have unique abilities like speed so that in Hib I need a Bard if I want to go fast...or I take a warden/Ench if I want to just go a little fast. I also understand that if I don't take those classes I won't be going fast at all, so guess what? I get one of those classes. Simple.

Yeah that's great. It's still bad design.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 6:44 AM by Ceen

I remember Uthgard 1 Amg patrols on their horse adding everything with speed that didnt play by their rules.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 7:45 AM by Sepplord

O M G at first glance i read animist.... WHY THE F**** would you give animist the ability to create speed pots

That said, can we stop beating dead horses? It'S been clearly VETOed multiple times by the staff and there is no new argument being made here.

People can inform themselves about their classchoices, you pick a class without speed, you don't have speed solo. Simple as that.
Damn, wait a second, i awas wrong, you still get hastener basically everywhere. You just can't get speed after surviving the first inc in RvR. Up until then, you already have speed on every class

Tue 5 Feb 2019 6:04 PM by Quik

defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:56 AM
Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:44 AM
defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:01 AM
So ignorant. Defending the speed mechanics from 2001 DAOC. Speed was always one of the biggest issues in RvR. Brilliant design. Require players to group with or play 3 of 13 classes in order to RvR. You are missing one of the few speed classes out of 13 therefore you need to run in slow motion. Then you make the comment that you don't want 1 class with everything. Sorcerer have everything including speed. CC, burst damage, dots, run speed, pets, interrupts, etc.. nice argument. Yeah it would break the game if more classes had 154% speed or potions they had to buy. Right.

Explain to me how giving more classes 154% speed affects the game? You have no argument. Yeah I wonder how many players will leave when they get tired of running around without hastener speed across 3 zones. I'm sure you'll be missed.

LOL

I won't be missed because Uthred already stated they will NOT add speed pots or speed charge items or horses for RvR.

I am not going to explain something I have stated 100's of times.

Go play Fortnite if you want everyone to have speed and everyone to have buffs and everyone to have...

I LIKE having classes that have unique abilities like speed so that in Hib I need a Bard if I want to go fast...or I take a warden/Ench if I want to just go a little fast. I also understand that if I don't take those classes I won't be going fast at all, so guess what? I get one of those classes. Simple.

Yeah that's great. It's still bad design.

In YOUR opinion...which is fine. You decide what YOU like.

In MY opinion it is perfect which is great because the dev's here happen to have a similar line of thinking as myself. If they didn't I wouldn't sit here and condemn them and tell them to stop living in the past, I would try for awhile and if it wasn't what I wanted I would move on.

The difference between you and I is, I understand this is THEIR server and I would never sit here day after day saying they need to change everything to suit what I want.

I could very well be wrong to a majority of the population, and I am fine with that, but on the other hand it seems most people in game are having a blast and loving it so far for what it is.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 6:16 PM by defiasbandit

Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 6:04 PM
defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:56 AM
Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:44 AM
LOL

I won't be missed because Uthred already stated they will NOT add speed pots or speed charge items or horses for RvR.

I am not going to explain something I have stated 100's of times.

Go play Fortnite if you want everyone to have speed and everyone to have buffs and everyone to have...

I LIKE having classes that have unique abilities like speed so that in Hib I need a Bard if I want to go fast...or I take a warden/Ench if I want to just go a little fast. I also understand that if I don't take those classes I won't be going fast at all, so guess what? I get one of those classes. Simple.

Yeah that's great. It's still bad design.

In YOUR opinion...which is fine. You decide what YOU like.

In MY opinion it is perfect which is great because the dev's here happen to have a similar line of thinking as myself. If they didn't I wouldn't sit here and condemn them and tell them to stop living in the past, I would try for awhile and if it wasn't what I wanted I would move on.

The difference between you and I is, I understand this is THEIR server and I would never sit here day after day saying they need to change everything to suit what I want.

I could very well be wrong to a majority of the population, and I am fine with that, but on the other hand it seems most people in game are having a blast and loving it so far for what it is.

The guys who designed daoc agree with me.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 6:22 PM by Quik

defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 6:16 PM
Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 6:04 PM
defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:56 AM
Yeah that's great. It's still bad design.

In YOUR opinion...which is fine. You decide what YOU like.

In MY opinion it is perfect which is great because the dev's here happen to have a similar line of thinking as myself. If they didn't I wouldn't sit here and condemn them and tell them to stop living in the past, I would try for awhile and if it wasn't what I wanted I would move on.

The difference between you and I is, I understand this is THEIR server and I would never sit here day after day saying they need to change everything to suit what I want.

I could very well be wrong to a majority of the population, and I am fine with that, but on the other hand it seems most people in game are having a blast and loving it so far for what it is.

The guys who designed daoc agree with me.

LOL then go play on their server =)