8v8: Refining the RVR ecosystem through /Task changes

Started 18 Feb 2021
by Jingo NZ
in Suggestions
A NEW SEPARATE 8v8 /Task zone on a 45 minute rotation
Full groups get +20% RP in this zone
/Fairfight command is worth an additional +20% in this zone
Only winning or losing a /Fairfight in the /Task zone will earn you contribution

See other /Task change suggestions for Small Man (& Casual)/8v8/Solo
Thu 18 Feb 2021 9:41 AM by byron
Maybe it would enough (but it would need to be tested) that there will be two zone tasks instead of one so a group can find fights in different locations with less risk to have adds or zerg in the same zone. I'm not against them, they are unexpected variable into the fights otherwise it is Daoc Arena that is another game but for sure two task zones will mitigate them.
Thu 18 Feb 2021 5:00 PM by joshisanonymous
Yes! Even more bonus RPs to coddle arena GvG players! /s

I really hate that the solutions to 8mans being hypocritical always involve giving them more stuff.
Fri 19 Feb 2021 7:39 AM by Sepplord
joshisanonymous wrote:
Thu 18 Feb 2021 5:00 PM
Yes! Even more bonus RPs to coddle arena GvG players! /s

I really hate that the solutions to 8mans being hypocritical always involve giving them more stuff.

Kind of agree...but in the end it doesn't matter how much RP they get, and considering the development mentality it's our best bet to get something done. OP also made a similar thread for smallmens and one for solos, so he is not solely trying to get more rewards for 8mans
Fri 19 Feb 2021 2:23 PM by joshisanonymous
Sepplord wrote:
Fri 19 Feb 2021 7:39 AM
joshisanonymous wrote:
Thu 18 Feb 2021 5:00 PM
Yes! Even more bonus RPs to coddle arena GvG players! /s

I really hate that the solutions to 8mans being hypocritical always involve giving them more stuff.

Kind of agree...but in the end it doesn't matter how much RP they get, and considering the development mentality it's our best bet to get something done. OP also made a similar thread for smallmens and one for solos, so he is not solely trying to get more rewards for 8mans

You're right, I didn't see the other posts until after I had responded here, so it doesn't seem that Jingo's intent is to just reward 8mans, but my general sentiment is still the same.
Fri 19 Feb 2021 5:06 PM by Kurbsen
joshisanonymous wrote:
Thu 18 Feb 2021 5:00 PM
Yes! Even more bonus RPs to coddle arena GvG players! /s

I really hate that the solutions to 8mans being hypocritical always involve giving them more stuff.

In NA time the "real" 8 man grps only go to EV to fight and will stay there all night. However, since that keep change happened in EV.. the zerg will still flock there even when the task was a different place. I can say the same thing where I really hate the solutions to BGs getting more stuff. The only thing 8 mans want are their own place. Get rid of EV task and underground keep and a lot of problems get solved.
Fri 19 Feb 2021 5:42 PM by joshisanonymous
Kurbsen wrote:
Fri 19 Feb 2021 5:06 PM
joshisanonymous wrote:
Thu 18 Feb 2021 5:00 PM
Yes! Even more bonus RPs to coddle arena GvG players! /s

I really hate that the solutions to 8mans being hypocritical always involve giving them more stuff.

In NA time the "real" 8 man grps only go to EV to fight and will stay there all night. However, since that keep change happened in EV.. the zerg will still flock there even when the task was a different place. I can say the same thing where I really hate the solutions to BGs getting more stuff. The only thing 8 mans want are their own place. Get rid of EV task and underground keep and a lot of problems get solved.

I trust that's all you want yourself, but I suspect that if the /cleanfight RP bonus was removed, plenty of 8man players would be upset.
Fri 19 Feb 2021 9:38 PM by Magesty
Am I the only one who thinks it is a little ridiculous that players are constantly posting about wanting to be coddled and handed a sterilized version of the game? Bonus RPs, new systems to help ensure "fair fights", special testing and rebalancing around 8v8 to soothe the colic-- wad it all up and ram it into baby's mouth in the hopes of a brief moment of pacification.

At a certain point players have to realize that the whole point of the frontier zones isn't to have a curated arena with nerfed edges where they and the mouth breathers they sit in discord with can safely toddle around.

With the transition to NF the basic design flaws that were so prevalent in OF are gone. The task system is well implemented and is a nice way to find immediate action if that's what you are looking for. There are places where many different play styles can find good and consistent fights. Action has been spread out in a way that was impossible in OF, but there are still viable hotspots and (more forgiving) choke points. I don't see any reason why soloers should be given a place to start a bow town, and as far as I can tell, those were just officially nixed. Why do 8v8 players deserve their own version of a bow town?

For those that are proponents of changes that incentivize the server's population into their own little self-contained bubbles-- how much compartmentalization is too much? Is there a limit? Perhaps it would be best if we made a specific area for each group size to play just the way they want to. We can cap zergs at 32 players and instance the frontier zones so no one has to deal with adds or imbalanced fights. Reward the players that avoid any interaction with those that play in a different manner with % bonus RPs as well as a clean task RP pool that hasn't been soiled by the filth that plays the game differently.

I have seen a server walk the path of compartmentalization. While in that instance it was a physical change rather than the artificial boundaries proposed in these threads, I think the end result would likely be the same.
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