30% xp boost. - Phoenix Freeshard

XP is nice here but I think its a little tiny bit slow.

Particularly solo when ur not in the frontier.

My suggestion is a generic 30% xp bonus added to all xp everywhere.

I had to put on my flame proof, arrow and knife proof suit before I posted this.

But I think I'm right. As someone who has soloed a ton, played about 15 classes in the beta from 1 to 25ish.

BTW, if you already think xp is fine it doesn't hurt you to increase it.

But if you have to solo, have real life commitments, etc, then this little boost might make the difference between yeah or nay for being able to play or to get several alts, etc.

the reason I came up with 30% is that when I get to the bgs or frontier to solo, with that 30% I feel like it is getting somewhere to solo, xp etc. Without it, im more inclined to look for a group, fail to get a group, and log.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 1:42 PM by heardstheword

Devs have already stated that XP is at a pretty nice point. The Phoenix Eggs are a thing for a reason. XP items are a thing for a reason. 1-50 shouldn't be a casual afternoon.

I'd suggest looking up XP items to turn in; they're on the Wiki.

I solo'd fine on both of my current lvl50's from 46-50 by just solo farming XP items around the maps.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:48 PM by relvinian

Now we have two opinions. What are your real life commitments?

Can you only login for an hour during north American time? Do you want to play a shadowblade or something difficult to solo?

Can you explain to me how granting 30% more xp to SOMEONE ELSE hurts you?

Can you explain to me how you will 1-50 in a casual afternoon with the 30% bonus?

Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:52 PM by heardstheword

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:48 PM
Now we have two opinions. What are your real life commitments?

Can you only login for an hour during north American time? Do you want to play a shadowblade or something difficult to solo?

Can you explain to me how granting 30% more xp to SOMEONE ELSE hurts you?

I have a level 50 shadowblade (if you look in my signature). The upper 40's I soloed on two different characters, as I said before.

You don't have to take this so personally. I'm not attacking you. I could not care less. I'm giving you a heads up that the Devs have stated they won't be increasing XP drastically from its current point. I'm trying to help you out by giving you options that are available to you.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:55 PM by Geek

heardstheword wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:52 PM
You don't have to take this so personally. I'm not attacking you. I could not care less.

Doesn't matter. You're talking to a brick wall of entitlement.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 3:12 PM by relvinian

"Play a little smarter and the job is still the exact same." Heardstheword.

I'm not taking it personally, But don't spew your salt if you can't get some bouncing back.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 3:13 PM by relvinian

Geek wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:55 PM
heardstheword wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:52 PM
You don't have to take this so personally. I'm not attacking you. I could not care less.

Doesn't matter. You're talking to a brick wall of entitlement.

I'm so entitled I leveled all these different classes to 20, many times solo, and reported over 20 bugs.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 3:17 PM by heardstheword

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 3:12 PM
"Play a little smarter and the job is still the exact same." Heardstheword.

I'm not taking it personally, But don't spew your salt if you can't get some bouncing back.

Pulling quotes from other threads adds nothing to this conversation.

I'm trying to help you solo faster -__-

Tue 7 Aug 2018 3:21 PM by Geek

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 3:13 PM
Geek wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:55 PM
heardstheword wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 2:52 PM
You don't have to take this so personally. I'm not attacking you. I could not care less.

Doesn't matter. You're talking to a brick wall of entitlement.

I'm so entitled I leveled all these different classes to 20, many times solo, and reported over 20 bugs.

Have a cookie, Relv!

I've leveled toons and reported bugs too! We're both amazing beta testers!

Devs still won't raise XP. Just don't go nuts about it like you do on the other forum.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 5:04 PM by rubaduck

I think the current state of XP is more then fine.

I hate levling, it is the absolute worst thing I can do in a game (ironically, I play mostly MMO or other RPG's) but I like to feel
some sense of accomplishment. 30% boost to xp would hurt my experience straight up regardless if I solo or if I group as it will
just feel cheap, so to put it easier and to explain it from my own subjective point of view, I don't agree with you.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 5:17 PM by Tyton

XP is fine.

Any faster it will start to feel like Candyland DAoC.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 5:27 PM by relvinian

30% more xp won't make it candyland. It will hurt nobody and nothing.

30% more xp might just make the server maintain a few people who might leave.

I'm just saying. And you, or anyone who thinks I'm wrong will you quit if xp got boosted by 30%?

Tue 7 Aug 2018 5:29 PM by rubaduck

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 5:27 PM
I'm just saying. And you, or anyone who thinks I'm wrong will you quit if xp got boosted by 30%?

This question can go both ways, will you quit if it doesn't get boosted?

Tue 7 Aug 2018 6:58 PM by Brokenstring

Okay relvinian. I have a test for you.

Take a decent solo character, a hunter will do. You know a lot about them, don't you?

Take that character and go solo. BUT also do a decent job at utilizing the XP eggs as well as XP loot items.

Come back to us with the /played days, and if it's even 30% the amount that Uthgard was, you might have a point.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:14 PM by Geek

I'd love more XP too.

But what you're saying is, from what I can tell, is that the 30% is already in place when you go into the frontiers or the BGs or DF. So, why not just level there if you want that boost? Is it that you don't want to level there, or you just want that 30% everywhere regardless? If that's the case, do you suggest raising the 30% to 40% or 50% in the frontiers, BGs and DF or leave it the same everywhere? If so, why level in one place over the other when it's all the same XP rate? What's the bonus then for leveling out in the frontiers as far as XP goes?

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:19 PM by relvinian

Suggestion is for the devs.

As to the rest of you, guess either you don't get me, don't agree, or both.

All is well in the world.

I'm pretty sure nobody else soloed as many toons to 20 in this beta as I have.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:21 PM by relvinian

Geek wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:14 PM
I'd love more XP too.

But what you're saying is, from what I can tell, is that the 30% is already in place when you go into the frontiers or the BGs or DF. So, why not just level there if you want that boost? Is it that you don't want to level there, or you just want that 30% everywhere regardless? If that's the case, do you suggest raising the 30% to 40% or 50% in the frontiers, BGs and DF or leave it the same everywhere? If so, why level in one place over the other when it's all the same XP rate? What's the bonus then for leveling out in the frontiers as far as XP goes?

You can't xp in the frontier until 20 except on alb. I would actually prefer two things over my 30% suggestion:

1. Give 1 rp at lvl 1 OR
2. Put lion's den in.

The 1 rp at lvl 1 would give tireless or serenity to lvl 1 toons. Which would also give a probably 30% bs to xp.

The first one is easier, the 2nd more fun.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:24 PM by Geek

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:21 PM
Geek wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:14 PM
I'd love more XP too.

But what you're saying is, from what I can tell, is that the 30% is already in place when you go into the frontiers or the BGs or DF. So, why not just level there if you want that boost? Is it that you don't want to level there, or you just want that 30% everywhere regardless? If that's the case, do you suggest raising the 30% to 40% or 50% in the frontiers, BGs and DF or leave it the same everywhere? If so, why level in one place over the other when it's all the same XP rate? What's the bonus then for leveling out in the frontiers as far as XP goes?

You can't xp in the frontier until 20 except on alb. I would actually prefer two things over my 30% suggestion:

1. Give 1 rp at lvl 1 OR
2. Put lion's den in.

The 1 rp at lvl 1 would give tireless or serenity to lvl 1 toons. Which would also give a probably 30% bs to xp.

The first one is easier, the 2nd more fun.

That's a suggestion I can back. Hopefully the devs check out that post instead of the first one. Maybe you should put it in the OP.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:25 PM by

gruenesschaf

The RA point you normally get at level 20 will be moved to level 5, we had a vote about that a week or two ago, just haven't had the time to implement it yet.

There will be no flat 30% xp increase. Like we already said, we're mostly happy with the XP - at least to the point where a global 30% increase is off the table.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:27 PM by rubaduck

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:19 PM
I'm pretty sure nobody else soloed as many toons to 20 in this beta as I have.

I'm pretty sure too, but I fail to see how that is relevant to your reasoning.

I get that you want more xp, and I get that you enjoy soloing, but why should soloing be rewarded with 30%?

And yes, groups would get that too which means groups would level faster too but it's already very fast so what's your catch here?

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:28 PM by heardstheword

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:19 PM
I'm pretty sure nobody else soloed as many toons to 20 in this beta as I have.

No one is trying to reign their superiority over you. You can have the level 20 king crown.

It has nothing to do with no one listening to you. You aren't listening to us....

As one of the Devs said above, they already said it's not happening, which I told you in the very first post... I wanted to help you.

Hopefully this thread gets locked, because it was answered by the very first post to it and is going no where.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:33 PM by Geek

gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:25 PM
The RA point you normally get at level 20 will be moved to level 5, we had a vote about that a week or two ago, just haven't had the time to implement it yet.

There will be no flat 30% xp increase. Like we already said, we're mostly happy with the XP - at least to the point where a global 30% increase is off the table.

Woot.. an RP at lvl 5? Welp, that's great

It may not be at lvl 1 Relv, but least it's better than waiting til 20.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:38 PM by Armsmancer

Just add more killtask items in many different empty zones so even those that solo can go get those if they are having grouping issues.

What we don't want is people to get bored and quit. Take the worst class you can think of and think about leveling that solo during NA times when nobody is really on, so you're stuck doing it alone in many cases. On alb there's barely any killtask items early on, bandit ears, which are underwhelming, I was lv 6 when turned in 10 of them, got 3 bubs... Then the next entry to get killtasks is lv 15-25 bwgans in llyn barfog. If you're playing a bad alb class during NA times you are likely to find something better to do. The big xp bonuses here are proportional to the efficiency of killing. A great focus group is going to benefit much more than a solo class who is resting between pulls. So 30% xp isn't the same for both people when the kills are rolling in for one and not for the less likable classes for group.

OP really just want to not have crappy solo times and we all know there are classes that without a group are horrible to solo with and more killtask items in other zones I think is best solution, won't effect global xp rate but gives them more options and can visit zones or other dungeons maybe to use more of the world than just fins/dunters/gobs/etc.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 8:28 PM by relvinian

heardstheword wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:28 PM
relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:19 PM
I'm pretty sure nobody else soloed as many toons to 20 in this beta as I have.

No one is trying to reign their superiority over you. You can have the level 20 king crown.

It has nothing to do with no one listening to you. You aren't listening to us....

As one of the Devs said above, they already said it's not happening, which I told you in the very first post... I wanted to help you.

Hopefully this thread gets locked, because it was answered by the very first post to it and is going no where.

Don't see Dev next to ur name.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 8:33 PM by heardstheword

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 8:28 PM
Don't see Dev next to ur name.

<3

I hope your day gets better.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 8:36 PM by Seigmoraig

gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 7:25 PM
The RA point you normally get at level 20 will be moved to level 5, we had a vote about that a week or two ago, just haven't had the time to implement it yet.

There will be no flat 30% xp increase. Like we already said, we're mostly happy with the XP - at least to the point where a global 30% increase is off the table.

NICE Tireless / Serenity at level 5 is a godsend !

Tue 7 Aug 2018 8:52 PM by Zansobar

relvinian wrote: ↑
Tue 7 Aug 2018 5:27 PM
30% more xp won't make it candyland. It will hurt nobody and nothing.

30% more xp might just make the server maintain a few people who might leave.

I'm just saying. And you, or anyone who thinks I'm wrong will you quit if xp got boosted by 30%?

I get the feeling you aren't doing the xp item quests because those make it super fast to solo. On my ranger, I have got one level each time i've turned in 10 of the xp items from level 30 to 40. I suggest you go read the wiki and start at the first xp quest where the lowest turn in range is your current level, the mobs should con yellow to orange. You should get at least a level per 10 xp items at least up to 40 doing this. On top of this you will be getting Phoenix eggs to turn in, though they are worth much less xp than the xp items.

Tue 7 Aug 2018 9:26 PM by Ganaka

I agree with Relv on this issue. A boost wouldn't hurt anything. The whole draw of this game for me is the RVR at level 50. I will have a toon customized for each BG if I can turn xp off. The PVE in the game is tired and old.

Side comment: What's with the need to insult people when you don't agree with them? Why is our society in this position? Regardless of your beliefs, is it necessary to always lead with an insult when arguing with someone? Some of y'all need to not hit the Submit button when responding to ideas.

Wed 8 Aug 2018 5:54 AM by

Uthred

Locked.

We will not increase the xp, it is good as it is now. Casual groups will make it in 48h to lvl 50, Optimized groups in less.