tri-wield is garbage and hidden melee nerfs.

Started 2 May 2019
by metaljames
in Ask the Team
hitting for 25dmg on mainhand with tri-wield seems very gimp. tri-wield is dialed in at 11.3 dps, exactly the same as a DA charge. that is too low.

since the last patch my miss rate has been extraordinary. yesterday I missed Ice Storm on an infiltrator with over a 15% chance to miss. how can a rr7 bm with aug str and dex, with mp weapons, 50 spec, fully buffed with pot have 15% chance to miss on a style with a medium to-hit bonus? not only that but I seem to miss Ice Storm and Tempest around 1/3 of the time, which to a bm is a sever dps nerf. im sure I don't have to tell you that a style that says 10% chance to miss should miss 1/10 of the time not 2/3 of the time. please fix.
Thu 2 May 2019 7:34 PM by qq6
Give combat log screens, miss chance is shown there. The only thing that comes to mind, is, you are moving while trying to hit.
Thu 2 May 2019 7:44 PM by metaljames
should be easy enough for them to reproduce. no I was not strafing.
Thu 2 May 2019 7:52 PM by Saroi
Did he evade before and used Harmstring on you? Harmstring gives medium defense bonus that would raise the miss chance of enemy to around 25%
Fri 3 May 2019 3:25 AM by qq6
Its happening to you, you give 1/3 and 2/3 as chances, and say it happens a lot... just duel some1 and give combat logs, dont make them do extra work for something you could provide proof of. Will take you literally a few mins.
Fri 3 May 2019 4:12 AM by Ashenspire
metaljames wrote:
Thu 2 May 2019 7:20 PM
how can a rr7 bm with aug str and dex, with mp weapons, 50 spec, fully buffed with pot

None of those affect hit chance.

You had a medium bonus, your target most likely evaded and used hamstring, which has a medium defense bonus, which cancels out your ice storms medium bonus, leaving you at the base hit chance which is 85% on a level 50 with properly enchanted hear in RvR.
Fri 3 May 2019 6:59 AM by Sepplord
so what is it? 1/3 missing? 2/3 missing?

or just "a lot" ???


Good post btw.
can be used as an example of bad feedback in the future
Thu 9 May 2019 11:38 PM by metaljames
well, 1/3 is 33%, and 2/3 is 66%, I hope that helps you. I don't have time to do testing. I have time to rvr and notice something isn't right when a style that says it misses 5% of the time is being missed every other time I go to use it. me complaining about the 15% miss was me not knowing anything about CS styles, not a mystery anymore. me complaining that tempest missing way more than it should is legit imo. it says 5% miss when I do miss it which means I have not been debuffed. but I still miss it all the time. I seriously estimate this number to be around 1/2 of the time in rvr after I slam then use ice storm it misses. if it was actually 5% it would be 1/20 missed, get it? that is no where near half. it wouldn't even be noticeable if I only missed 1/20 of the time with side chain. but yet im here complaining. I guess its too much to ask for the gms to do testing themselves?
Fri 10 May 2019 6:10 AM by Sepplord
So now it is 1/2 of the times it misses? Do you really not understand what every single comment here tried to say? I'll quote the one that literally spelled out what the problem is with your feedback and how you can improve it:

qq6 wrote:
Fri 3 May 2019 3:25 AM
Its happening to you, you give 1/3 and 2/3 as chances, and say it happens a lot...just duel some1 and give combat logs, dont make them do extra work for something you could provide proof of. Will take you literally a few mins.

I bolded the most important part, but you are probably well off looking at the other parts again too, since your new comment shows that you haven't changed a single bit.
Fri 10 May 2019 6:37 AM by qq6
i was going to reply, but i deleted my msg like 5 times earlier. video or logs = help
Sat 11 May 2019 3:38 PM by metaljames
same thing happened again last night rvring. missing tempest and supernova much more than a bm should. I am not tech savy and for the amount of time and effort it would take me to get videos, post them, and get a response from the gms, someone that isn't digitally retarded could probably run that test 3 dozen times. I enjoy this game very much but could definitely find better ways to spend my time. if the gms don't care enough to fix a class special like TW to hit for more than 20-25 dmg on mainhand, and to reduce the insane number of misses and fumbles that melee has, I wont care to play on this server much longer. this is not a unique opinion. bad changes, and not fixing things that need to be fixed will surely lose you more people than it will gain.
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