Ranger Crit Shot - Phoenix Freeshard

Up until a few days ago, rangers could crit shot and penetrate bubbles. Now, you can't even pop the bubble on a grey. Is this intended? With 40+15 bow I am 100% useless trying to solo a caster that I have the jump on, which has rendered rangers even more useless than they were.

Sat 11 Aug 2018 4:17 PM by Quik

Didn't think crit shot was meant to penetrate bubbles, that is what penetrating shot was made for.

Sat 11 Aug 2018 5:10 PM by Zansobar

Penetrating arrow will only penetrate bubbles cast on others, not self cast bubbles. They put in self cast bubble for casters back near DAOC launch due to the fact that archers would easily be able to kill any caster from range if their crit shot could land.

Sat 11 Aug 2018 5:14 PM by Zansobar

Shroomy wrote: ↑
Sat 11 Aug 2018 3:56 PM
Up until a few days ago, rangers could crit shot and penetrate bubbles. Now, you can't even pop the bubble on a grey. Is this intended? With 40+15 bow I am 100% useless trying to solo a caster that I have the jump on, which has rendered rangers even more useless than they were.

I think the main reason archers are so underpowered compared to how we remember them during the 1.65 era, is that back then any stealthers usually had a buffbot and thus were fully buffed. On this server and most others like Uthgard where buffbots are not allowed, most all visibles run in a group with a buffer and stealthers are stuck using underpowered potions or weak self buffs. This leads to a huge disparity in relative power without even taking into account that stealthers are usually solo or very small in numbers going against usually a much larger number of visibles.

Sat 11 Aug 2018 7:59 PM by Shroomy

On live you could penetrate a bubble if you hit for over a certain amount of damage. RoG's have a huge factor on rangers being underpowered as every piece of gear has a dd proc on it that interrupts bow shots as well.

Mon 13 Aug 2018 4:00 AM by Haruspex

Crit shot DID penetrate bubbles. It was for this reason that Brittle Guard was introduced as one of the Convoker ML abilities.

Mon 13 Aug 2018 8:10 AM by VonSchneider

Shroomy wrote: ↑
Sat 11 Aug 2018 7:59 PM
On live you could penetrate a bubble if you hit for over a certain amount of damage. RoG's have a huge factor on rangers being underpowered as every piece of gear has a dd proc on it that interrupts bow shots as well.

Is this true!? For sure there has to be a range on dd's in this case. Otherwise bow would be rendered completely useless here. On live everyone was running dd's on armor too but it was never a problem. Btw, during 1.65 critshots did not destroy the BT. It was a common tactic to hit RF to destroy BT directly followed by critshot which would then land and in the best case hit the caster who stopped running and was looking for you . So you better get used to it again.

Mon 13 Aug 2018 9:59 AM by Ceen

Its working as intended if it doesnt penetrate self casted bubble but penetrates none self casted once. There is no max damage before it gets penetrated.

Mon 13 Aug 2018 12:11 PM by Cadeg

VonSchneider wrote: ↑
Mon 13 Aug 2018 8:10 AM
Shroomy wrote: ↑
Sat 11 Aug 2018 7:59 PM
On live you could penetrate a bubble if you hit for over a certain amount of damage. RoG's have a huge factor on rangers being underpowered as every piece of gear has a dd proc on it that interrupts bow shots as well.

Is this true!? For sure there has to be a range on dd's in this case. Otherwise bow would be rendered completely useless here.

i've test with volley at max range ( 3800 more or less ) and reverse damage work at this range, instead of 1500 ...

Mon 13 Aug 2018 12:58 PM by relvinian

DD procs did interrupt back in the day but did they proc this much? Was the range 1500 then? Curious.

Mon 13 Aug 2018 1:22 PM by Horus

relvinian wrote: ↑
Mon 13 Aug 2018 12:58 PM
DD procs did interrupt back in the day but did they proc this much? Was the range 1500 then? Curious.

1. Crit shot will not go through bubble even on a gray (what are you shooting grays for anyway you big meanie

)
2. Penetrating arrow which is automatic will go through bubbles casted on other players (like PBT) and do a % damage based on the level of penetrating arrow you have (bow spec)
3. Damage shields and armor procs did NOT hit archers at range back in the day. I am convinced this is incorrectly implemented here.
4. Although they currently do damage, those armor procs and damage shields do not interrupt. This was the fix put in when I reported this issue in the tracker. I don't think it is the correct fix myself, the range component should have been taken out.
5. Volley should ignore bubbles. Haven't tested it here so not sure how it is implemented.

Mon 13 Aug 2018 1:40 PM by relvinian

Interesting.