Horus wrote: ↑Mon 6 May 2019 7:42 PMKinda funny... but my baby eldritch in the 1st BG got one shot perfed with a staff from an infilt. Is this supposed to be possible> I thought only SBs could 2H perf?
I guess my memory of that CS style line what you had to be dual wielding for them to work..
But I've drank since then....
Horus wrote: ↑Mon 6 May 2019 7:42 PMKinda funny... but my baby eldritch in the 1st BG got one shot perfed with a staff from an infilt. Is this supposed to be possible> I thought only SBs could 2H perf?
I guess my memory of that CS style line what you had to be dual wielding for them to work..
But I've drank since then....
Bradekes wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 3:33 PMHorus wrote: ↑Mon 6 May 2019 7:42 PMKinda funny... but my baby eldritch in the 1st BG got one shot perfed with a staff from an infilt. Is this supposed to be possible> I thought only SBs could 2H perf?
I guess my memory of that CS style line what you had to be dual wielding for them to work..
But I've drank since then....
Pretty sure the only time this will happen to you is if you are sitting.. Otherwise it should hit prettty weak.. Were you standing??
Horus wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 6:39 PMOh yes, it was in Thid. I was just running out of the keep. Mind you I was only lev 23 so he was prob a lev above me.
gruenesschaf
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 9:23 PMPerf (and Backstab) is unique in that it has an additive growth rate, whereas all other styles have multiplicative growth rates. The damage increase you are seeing is simply the extra base damage in going from a 1h to a 2h weapon. It doesn't actually affect the Perf damage unless there is yet another "custom" code change on Phoenix. Where 2h staff will actually affect the multiplicative growth rates will be in the rest of the CS styles.
Bradekes wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 6:44 PMHorus wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 6:39 PMOh yes, it was in Thid. I was just running out of the keep. Mind you I was only lev 23 so he was prob a lev above me.
I used to run a staff in thid on live but only for people sitting down.. No way it should kill someone in 1shot if they are standing
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 9:44 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 9:23 PMPerf (and Backstab) is unique in that it has an additive growth rate, whereas all other styles have multiplicative growth rates. The damage increase you are seeing is simply the extra base damage in going from a 1h to a 2h weapon. It doesn't actually affect the Perf damage unless there is yet another "custom" code change on Phoenix. Where 2h staff will actually affect the multiplicative growth rates will be in the rest of the CS styles.
All styles should work like / be additive like PA, however, only for the current live styles the values required to do it correctly are available, for the non stealth opener old styles only inaccurate growth rates are available. The only really special thing about stealth opener is that they ignore weapon speed for the style bonus damage and use a certain fixed weapon speed for that.
Numatic wrote: ↑Wed 8 May 2019 12:22 AMIt can if it's a caster in crappy RoG gear with very little or no +hp and +con items or buffs. Very easily. Not everyone runs in thid twinked.
Numatic wrote: ↑Wed 8 May 2019 12:30 AMgruenesschaf wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 9:44 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Tue 7 May 2019 9:23 PMPerf (and Backstab) is unique in that it has an additive growth rate, whereas all other styles have multiplicative growth rates. The damage increase you are seeing is simply the extra base damage in going from a 1h to a 2h weapon. It doesn't actually affect the Perf damage unless there is yet another "custom" code change on Phoenix. Where 2h staff will actually affect the multiplicative growth rates will be in the rest of the CS styles.
All styles should work like / be additive like PA, however, only for the current live styles the values required to do it correctly are available, for the non stealth opener old styles only inaccurate growth rates are available. The only really special thing about stealth opener is that they ignore weapon speed for the style bonus damage and use a certain fixed weapon speed for that.
Fixed weapon speed? Dont you mean fixed damage modifier? I was under the impression, that with CS, damage continues to grow past comp spec. If I use a slower 2h weapon, shouldn't PA be higher? If the damage used a fixed speed then you would be better off using a fast 1h for PA? Or am I missing something?
My understanding with 2h staff and PA, is that since staff is not specced, on Phoenix you will have a lower base damage but the 2h slow speed modifier would make it hit hard? Since as someone said melee has no damage variance here? Or does staff not apply to that since friar is the only class who can spec in it?
Sepplord wrote: ↑Wed 8 May 2019 6:30 AMexplains why 2H perf is not worth doing though...
good that that only affects SBs, as i have learned yesterday, we are the strongest assassins anyways
Sepplord wrote: ↑Wed 8 May 2019 6:30 AMexplains why 2H perf is not worth doing though...
good that that only affects SBs, as i have learned yesterday, we are the strongest assassins anyways
Still an intresting topic though 
Sepplord wrote: ↑Wed 8 May 2019 10:41 AM
Is that worthwhile though? Only if CD kills the target, while 1h-CD wouldn't...or am i missing something?
What good is a stun if you aren't attacking for it's duration and if the Styledmg is also additive instead of multiplicative
Gotta do some testing, maybe the weaponspeed is fixed for PA but still different for 1h VS 2h...
PS: just remembered i specced LA50 yesterday and don't have PA/CD anymore...so i won't be testing anything soon
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