Minstrel charm cap

Started 19 Feb 2019
by Caravellex
in Ask the Team
Hello! Currently on my minstrel at 50 I can hold a level 58 mob while spamming charm.
This seems to be a hard cap. When I was level 45, I could hold a mob 10 levels above me, now I can only hold 8 levels above me.

My question is regarding the mechanics of the hard cap, and if realm rank skills will have any additional effect.
Wed 20 Feb 2019 6:53 AM by Koljar
I've seen a pic of a /level 20 minstrel from live (waaay back when power leveling there was the thing) in avalon city charming one of those roaming lvl 70 guards.

You can charm anything that's chamable. Holding it reliably is a different pair of shoes and iirc there was no definitive formula. The only one I remember that came close to being reasonable was "chamable level = instruments level + (bonus to instrument level from RR and SC)/2" resulting in an RR8 minstrel being able to reliably hold lvl 58 pets without spamming (my minstrel was rr8 and it worked so...). Others claimed to hold lvl 60 pets before even RR8 but chose not to proove anything.
Wed 20 Feb 2019 8:19 AM by Niget
Maybe different here, but tested on live mof helped. Bring the charm to level 50.
Others have told me that going higher in mof helps also. I didn't test that though.
Wed 20 Feb 2019 9:04 AM by Koljar
The MOF from RA never helped once you reached 50. Only those laby focus myths could exceed that. Not sure if/how MOF got tweaked here tho.
Wed 20 Feb 2019 3:16 PM by Ardri
Koljar wrote:
Wed 20 Feb 2019 9:04 AM
The MOF from RA never helped once you reached 50. Only those laby focus myths could exceed that. Not sure if/how MOF got tweaked here tho.

MoF and spell lvl doesn't go above 50 here.
Wed 20 Feb 2019 10:33 PM by Caravellex
MOF does not help.
Max charm while spamming with 50+12 instruments showed a level 58 mob with 60% chance to resist.
Tried again with 50+13 instruments and it still showed a 60% resist rate, meaning that additional points in instruments will not let you charm above the level 58 hardcap. Very different than live and I havnt seen the change noted anywhere.
Wed 20 Feb 2019 11:08 PM by Aincrad
Caravellex wrote:
Wed 20 Feb 2019 10:33 PM
MOF does not help.
Max charm while spamming with 50+12 instruments showed a level 58 mob with 60% chance to resist.
Tried again with 50+13 instruments and it still showed a 60% resist rate, meaning that additional points in instruments will not let you charm above the level 58 hardcap. Very different than live and I havnt seen the change noted anywhere.

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=2150&p=11771

Read the last point under the "Recent Staff Decisions" section. Doesn't specifically say the lvl cap for the charm but one was put in place. Yes, it is a custom change that I for one am glad they implemented as anything higher is unnecessary.
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