Happens with alarming frequency despite 50 composite stealth. I don't think you should lose stealth until you fire.
Losing stealth when drawing bow
Started 18 Jul 2019
by
Deekina
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Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:46 AM
by
Ashok
Wrong forum. Moved.
Normal behavior.
With 50 composite stealth you have 0% to be unstealthed on draw when using a normal shot or rapid fire.
However, crit shot always has a minimal chance to unstealth on draw of 20%. For every composite point below 50 the chance to unstealth does increase by 2%.
Normal behavior.
With 50 composite stealth you have 0% to be unstealthed on draw when using a normal shot or rapid fire.
However, crit shot always has a minimal chance to unstealth on draw of 20%. For every composite point below 50 the chance to unstealth does increase by 2%.
Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:58 AM
by
Deekina
20% is a bit savage imo. What's the reasoning behind that?
Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:00 AM
by
Sepplord
risk/reward for opening from stealth with a double-dmg shot
Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:06 AM
by
Turano
I may be wrong here for not having played archers for quite some time but I think on live with classic archery you had a 0% chance of unstealthing on drawing a crit shot when you had composite stealth on your level
So is that a custom change? And if so, why?
So is that a custom change? And if so, why?
Thu 18 Jul 2019 11:43 AM
by
Sepplord
Turano wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:06 AMI may be wrong here for not having played archers for quite some time but I think on live with classic archery you had a 0% chance of unstealthing on drawing a crit shot when you had composite stealth on your level
So is that a custom change? And if so, why?
you are remembering it wrong
i can't confirm if the 20% has always been 20% for sure...but you always had a chance to destealth on critshots. Just normal shots were 100% safe
Thu 18 Jul 2019 12:32 PM
by
Sleepwell
This has been discussed on the forum before, but i saved it to share again.
It is not custom to this server. This was live.
STEALTH AND FIRING:
From Version 1.35 Release Notes
November 8, 2001
“Archer classes now have a chance of becoming visible when they nock their arrow. The way it worked up until now is that archers would always be invisible if they were using stealth until they fired their bow. Now, a skill check is performed when they “nock” their arrow. If they fail the check, they become visible. The chance to become visible is based on their specialization in Stealth. On normal (i.e. NOT critical shots), if they are 50% specc’ed in stealth, they will have a 50% chance of becoming visible; if they are 100% specc’ed, they will have a 100% chance of remaining hidden. On Critical Shots, the chance is the same as a normal shot, minus 20% – so an archer max specced in stealth will have an 80% of remaining hidden after nocking his bow. Please note that in all cases, an archer will become visible once the shot is actually fired.”
https://camelotherald.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_Notes:_Version_1.35
What i can't find is if spec + rr = composite, counts. And i dont depend on recollection or my ancient memory to definitively say what should or shouldnt be. I "think" i remember it being composite, and that is what Ashok mentioned above as well. If that does hold true, then 50 composite stealth should = 100% chance to stay hidden while drawing a normal shot, and 80% chance to stay hidden when drawing a crit shot.
It is not custom to this server. This was live.
STEALTH AND FIRING:
From Version 1.35 Release Notes
November 8, 2001
“Archer classes now have a chance of becoming visible when they nock their arrow. The way it worked up until now is that archers would always be invisible if they were using stealth until they fired their bow. Now, a skill check is performed when they “nock” their arrow. If they fail the check, they become visible. The chance to become visible is based on their specialization in Stealth. On normal (i.e. NOT critical shots), if they are 50% specc’ed in stealth, they will have a 50% chance of becoming visible; if they are 100% specc’ed, they will have a 100% chance of remaining hidden. On Critical Shots, the chance is the same as a normal shot, minus 20% – so an archer max specced in stealth will have an 80% of remaining hidden after nocking his bow. Please note that in all cases, an archer will become visible once the shot is actually fired.”
https://camelotherald.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_Notes:_Version_1.35
What i can't find is if spec + rr = composite, counts. And i dont depend on recollection or my ancient memory to definitively say what should or shouldnt be. I "think" i remember it being composite, and that is what Ashok mentioned above as well. If that does hold true, then 50 composite stealth should = 100% chance to stay hidden while drawing a normal shot, and 80% chance to stay hidden when drawing a crit shot.
Thu 18 Jul 2019 1:00 PM
by
Hejjin
Shame that every point above composite 50 stealth does not reduce the chance to unstealth by 2%, that might provide some incentive for people to spec higher into stealth, above that provided by the extra movement speed.Ashok wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:46 AMWrong forum. Moved.
Normal behavior.
With 50 composite stealth you have 0% to be unstealthed on draw when using a normal shot or rapid fire.
However, crit shot always has a minimal chance to unstealth on draw of 20%. For every composite point below 50 the chance to unstealth does increase by 2%.
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:15 PM
by
Bumbles
you need 45 stealth and it seems to never happen anymore. Still happened to me at 40+16 stealth. Never happened EVER at 50 spec in stealth.
Fri 19 Jul 2019 1:35 PM
by
Hejjin
Sorry bumbles that is incorrect, I remember being advised of that on Albion advice by you (I think) and some Infil, but when I tested 45 (+15) stealth it still occurred. According to the above post by Ashok, the minimum chance will always be 20% even when above composite 50 stealth.Bumbles wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:15 PMyou need 45 stealth and it seems to never happen anymore. Still happened to me at 40+16 stealth. Never happened EVER at 50 spec in stealth.
Sat 20 Jul 2019 1:21 AM
by
Bumbles
Hejjin wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jul 2019 1:35 PMSorry bumbles that is incorrect, I remember being advised of that on Albion advice by you (I think) and some Infil, but when I tested 45 (+15) stealth it still occurred. According to the above post by Ashok, the minimum chance will always be 20% even when above composite 50 stealth.Bumbles wrote: ↑Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:15 PMyou need 45 stealth and it seems to never happen anymore. Still happened to me at 40+16 stealth. Never happened EVER at 50 spec in stealth.
If it is incorrect I have been incredibly lucky that it has never happened to me while I was at least 45 stealth for over a million RPs. When I was 34-39 stealth it happened all the time. Just sharing my personal experience in the game.
Sat 20 Jul 2019 9:54 AM
by
Fooj Fujiyama
Normal shot first and then crit shot since normal shots don't break stealth, this is the best order especially when shooting casters to pop their bubble before the crit shot.
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