Numatic wrote: ↑Thu 23 May 2019 5:00 PM
Here is a general breakdown of a casual player and how having to constantly farm now is a bad thing. Before I begin, I will say I'm slightly above casual due to having a wierd work schedule. I have been playing since launch and have 6 lvl 50's. I still dont have heart of legion on any, nor the dmg add. 3 of them are in full PC gear because I cant make it to raids. Only 3 have the raid chest peice and that's because my brother (who does have the time) got them for me. Only my mid toons are fully temped because a BD and savage are very cheap to full temp. All my others lack a bit of something. Usually about 10-15%of resists.
The days I work I am unable to play, for me that is 7 days out of 14 (I work 12 hr shifts).
Of the days i can play, i can only play if i wake up early before my wife and kid. I tend to wake up about 4-5am and play for an hour or so before I need to get my kid up for school. Some of those days I may get an extra hour or so if it's a weekend that I'm off or if my wife goes to work. About 2-3 of those days off are spent entirely with them or running errands, seeing family etc.
So I can make about 5 hours a week of play time and every so often (maybe once a month) get a few extra hours. (In the first few months I went HAM because I was on vacation for some and wife and kid were gone alot)
This leaves a casual like myself with only one option. To spend a great deal of free time farming instead of RvRing. Grouping is not likely because with such limited time I would need to find a group right when I log in. I cant stay on for 2 hours looking for a group, find one eventually, and log off 10mins later because I have to go.
I cannot be on at a specific time to make a raid. So I'm screwed out of feathers. Legion is out too. No feathers for alchemy either. So basically everything I need, I will need plat for. Now imagine if I was new. I first have to level a farm toon. So theres more time wasted. The economy is inflated because of salvaging pre nerf. Let's say I wanted an assasin. To be generous, it will cost at least 40-50p to get Everything you need done, including raid gear, sc, alch, charges etc. That's TWICE the amount of hours it takes in farming than to reach level 50 leveling at a respectable pace. So in the end, you need to level twice to 50, and once 50 with the farm toon, spend roughly over a month (and that's being ritualistic about it) farming the plat needed to temp a new toon. And need to get salvaging up. Or you can wait 5-6 months for the economy to stabilize from the nerf.
Honestly it just sucks. I just hate when people say "money isnt an issue for me" or "just go farm, it's not that expensive".
I get where you are coming from, but there are some issues i have with your argumentation...
I get that you do not have much time, and only having an hour here and an hour there really makes progress in games slow. That's kind of how it works. Instead of talking about the actual hours though, you then drift away into amount of weeks/months something takes to do, which is disguising the actual facts behind emotionally blown up timeframes. In the same vein someone else does the same thing in 2days. And you both aren't lying, it's just that playtime / RL-Time is vastly different for people. Looking at your scedule and saying, uggh...this will take me a month to achieve is akin to saying damn this game takes so long to install/play the tutorial. A full gaming day wasted just to get into the first level. If that's because a gaming day consists of only an hour playing, thats just unfair to bash the game for it, even if we would all agree that a whole day of playing the tutorial sounds horrible.
As the poster after you has mentioned, they are GAINING money in RvR now. I guess not everyone does, but i can confirm that even when i have a pretty shitty day, i at least break even. So when RvR doesn't drain money and PVE generates money, where will that lead to? Hyperinflation.
Yes, a new player that only plays 2hours a week looking at "how long will it take me to be set ingame and not having to PvE again unless i want a new char" seems daunting. But that's because you look at a goal too far away and see that as starting point. Especially if you want a class first that cannot farm well AND is among the most expensives to temp along with being one of the most gear dependant classes...
Realise that with an hour gametime per week it doesn't really matter if you are farming 1plat or two plat in that week, because there is someone else buying stuff from the market that farmed 10p or 20p in that week. He will outbid you either way.
Set smaller goals, play the game in a realistic pace. If you read a powergamer saying that every casual gets temped RR5 toons for free, realise that it's hyperbole and even with "welfare" RPs those casuals getting "free" RR5 spent about 50hours in RvR to get that "for free".
When people talk about how much money they farmed in an hour, realize that they didn't include walking to the spot, they didn't include time to sort inventories, they didn't include salvaging/trinketting etc...