Drop rate of salvage loot in Dartmoor still too high

Started 9 Sep 2020
by Delegator
in Resolved Issues
Granite Giants in Dartmoor drop approximately twice as much salvage loot as equivalent MOBs in other realms. For example, out of 77 kills of Granite Giant Stonebreakers I obtained 105 arcanum, compared to 57 from the same number of Militant Melancholic Fairies in Hib or 49 from Drakulv Axehands in Midgard. The difference in farming efficiency is stark, with Alb netting twice as much cash (when you include trinketing) per MOB.

Issue Timeline

9 Sep 2020 Delegator created this issue
11 Oct 2020 Uthred triaged this issue
11 Oct 2020 Uthred changed the status of this issue from new to backlog
11 Oct 2020 Uthred assigned this issue from Nobody to Uthred
11 Oct 2020 Uthred changed the status of this issue from in_progress to resolved
Wed 9 Sep 2020 4:59 AM by Emmigosa
Alb has some of their other spots nerfed though. So this may be intentional
Wed 9 Sep 2020 3:09 PM by Delegator
This is part of the larger issue of farming capabilities, because Midgard simply does not have the groupings of MOBs that Alb (pygmy goblins in Lyonesse, orcs in Aldland) or Hibernia (melancholic fairies, glimmerings in Sheeroe) that can be used to get salvage by the bagful with AE DoT kiting. The closest in Midgard is Hagbui at the farmhouse, but that pales in comparison to orcs or fairies.

It is also not trying to balance classes. I was looking at loot per MOB, regardless of the fact that necros can farm constantly without spending potions or tinders, or that rangers and scouts can farm constantly with tinders at about 2.5 kills per minute. The fastest Mid class for farming is the Darkness BD, which is just a bit slower than a necro due to the need to regen POW every so often. But even then, the fact that a necro will pull in twice the cash per unit time is way out of whack.

I would dearly love for shaman to have similar kite farming places to what Wizards/Cabbies have in Alb or similar to what an animist can to in Hib, but right now Midgard is at a HUGE disadvantage. You can see this by a /tradeorder pending where there are hundreds of PP waiting to get to Midgard because people farm in other realms.

And this isn't just a theoretical issue. Repairing a level 10 keep door takes about 500gp from 0 to full, and then if you add the gatehouse and potentially the inner, that's 2pp to repair a keep. A necro can farm that in less than an hour. A Hib or Mid would take 2 hours to get the same.
Wed 9 Sep 2020 4:53 PM by Delegator
Additional data point -- killed the same number of Glimmer Wards/Ardents/Strikers/Grievers in Sheeroe Hills and got just 18 arcanium. Lots of cloth (not practical to trinket) instead.
Wed 9 Sep 2020 5:15 PM by Kwall0311
Alb also doesnt have an aoe dot class that gets alot of arcanium drops. Not everything is equal
Wed 9 Sep 2020 5:29 PM by DinoTriz
Kwall0311 wrote:
Wed 9 Sep 2020 5:15 PM
Alb also doesnt have an aoe dot class that gets alot of arcanium drops. Not everything is equal

Except for Cabalist and Wizard.
Wed 9 Sep 2020 5:33 PM by Kwall0311
DinoTriz wrote:
Wed 9 Sep 2020 5:29 PM
Kwall0311 wrote:
Wed 9 Sep 2020 5:15 PM
Alb also doesnt have an aoe dot class that gets alot of arcanium drops. Not everything is equal

Except for Cabalist and Wizard.

They get far more cloth and wood , opposed to a cave sham that gets alot of chain / hammmer drops.

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