Combined max level of BD sub pets?

Started 30 Aug 2018
by Falken
in Ask the Team
Just curious on knowing the exact combined level of BD sub pets?

Right now we can have 2 red pets or 2 yellow pets or to get 3 pets we have to use 3 of the blue pets (colors are spell level not mob con ).

The max level of 2 red pets is 74 (based on Uthgard char builder saying max level 37, but our in game tooltip says "up to level 45" so this really needs clarifying and better wording in game to know which sub pets are summoned at which level) I guess the question is that the total, or is it higher?
Thu 30 Aug 2018 1:31 PM by Kohi
Falken wrote:
Thu 30 Aug 2018 12:33 AM
Just curious on knowing the exact combined level of BD sub pets?

Right now we can have 2 red pets or 2 yellow pets or to get 3 pets we have to use 3 of the blue pets (colors are spell level not mob con ).

The max level of 2 red pets is 74 (based on Uthgard char builder saying max level 37, but our in game tooltip says "up to level 45" so this really needs clarifying and better wording in game to know which sub pets are summoned at which level) I guess the question is that the total, or is it higher?

I answered another post with a similar question, providing an old 2004 link, sadly didn't find any other relevant sources, as most of the Daoc websites are now dead. Anyway, on the following thread, 4th post is an extract of Sheena's BD guide explaining for each cast lvl (summoning of minions) which lvl the subpet will have.
Hope it helps. =)

Pets are lower level than a SM pet. Commanders are 80% of BD level except the Dread Commander (gained at level 45) which is 82% of caster level (thus level 41 with a BD 50). The minion pets are 75% of BD level OR capped for the specific summon spell version. Minion pet abilities increase according to their level. To get higher level minion pets, you have to spec higher in that spell line. Note that there is currently a total level cap on the levels of minions that can be controlled by commander pet. It's currently set at 75 which will not allow you to summon 3 pets of max level (37).

lvl of summon spell --> lvl cap of pet (caplvl)
15 ----------------> 15
18 ----------------> 18
21 ----------------> 20
24 ----------------> 22
27 ----------------> 24
30 ----------------> 27
33 ----------------> 29
36 ----------------> 31
39 ----------------> 33
42 ----------------> 36
45 ----------------> 37
48 ----------------> 37

Another way to look at it is in equation:

commander level = 0.8 x caster level (for version 5, 15, 30)
commander level = 0.82 x caster level (for version 45)

minion pet level = (0.75 x caster level) OR cap level (as per table) whichever is lowest.

Source : https://forums.freddyshouse.com/threads/a-bonedancer-and-his-minions.4626/

Considering the above data and formula, 2 max lvl (48) red minions would be : 37*2=74, so 1 lvl under the max combined lvl of minions (excl. Commander) from 75.
Now, regarding the tooltip, i must confess i didn't pay attention, will have to check by myself on my BD next time i log in.
Thu 30 Aug 2018 7:29 PM by Falken
Kohi wrote:
Thu 30 Aug 2018 1:31 PM
Falken wrote:
Thu 30 Aug 2018 12:33 AM
Just curious on knowing the exact combined level of BD sub pets?

Right now we can have 2 red pets or 2 yellow pets or to get 3 pets we have to use 3 of the blue pets (colors are spell level not mob con ).

The max level of 2 red pets is 74 (based on Uthgard char builder saying max level 37, but our in game tooltip says "up to level 45" so this really needs clarifying and better wording in game to know which sub pets are summoned at which level) I guess the question is that the total, or is it higher?

I answered another post with a similar question, providing an old 2004 link, sadly didn't find any other relevant sources, as most of the Daoc websites are now dead. Anyway, on the following thread, 4th post is an extract of Sheena's BD guide explaining for each cast lvl (summoning of minions) which lvl the subpet will have.
Hope it helps. =)

Pets are lower level than a SM pet. Commanders are 80% of BD level except the Dread Commander (gained at level 45) which is 82% of caster level (thus level 41 with a BD 50). The minion pets are 75% of BD level OR capped for the specific summon spell version. Minion pet abilities increase according to their level. To get higher level minion pets, you have to spec higher in that spell line. Note that there is currently a total level cap on the levels of minions that can be controlled by commander pet. It's currently set at 75 which will not allow you to summon 3 pets of max level (37).

lvl of summon spell --> lvl cap of pet (caplvl)
15 ----------------> 15
18 ----------------> 18
21 ----------------> 20
24 ----------------> 22
27 ----------------> 24
30 ----------------> 27
33 ----------------> 29
36 ----------------> 31
39 ----------------> 33
42 ----------------> 36
45 ----------------> 37
48 ----------------> 37

Another way to look at it is in equation:

commander level = 0.8 x caster level (for version 5, 15, 30)
commander level = 0.82 x caster level (for version 45)

minion pet level = (0.75 x caster level) OR cap level (as per table) whichever is lowest.

Source : https://forums.freddyshouse.com/threads/a-bonedancer-and-his-minions.4626/

Considering the above data and formula, 2 max lvl (48) red minions would be : 37*2=74, so 1 lvl under the max combined lvl of minions (excl. Commander) from 75.
Now, regarding the tooltip, i must confess i didn't pay attention, will have to check by myself on my BD next time i log in.

Appreciate you taking the time to post this. I have already seen and read through this, I guess I am just asking for clarification from the devs to be sure these align, since the wording on the tooltip in game is not very specific, it reads more like a charm spell for sorc/minst than a summon spell.
Sat 1 Sep 2018 12:42 AM by Maxim
Yup - those should all hold true.
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