Champ spec

Started 9 Nov 2020
by Klasker
in Hibernia
Hi,

So I freshly dinged my champ to 50, and am trying to figure out the spec.

I see different specs mentioned all over.

My initial thought was to do 50LW50Valor rest parry.

However, I am now seeing recommendations for this spec around the interweb.
50 Large Weapons 42 Shield 39 Valor rest parry

Will this be a better spec at low RR?

Best,
Klasker
Mon 9 Nov 2020 7:38 AM by Patron
Champs... Lol
Champion only extra debuff effectiveness has been reduced against buffs from items from 2 to 1.5
Lesser dmgtable, reduced weaponskill, less HP and no Firbolgs...

Your spec is valid! But id go 42 shield and numb n stun the enemys.
Have fun in Hib, the nerfed realm
Mon 9 Nov 2020 9:48 AM by inoeth
Klasker wrote:
Mon 9 Nov 2020 7:20 AM
Hi,

So I freshly dinged my champ to 50, and am trying to figure out the spec.

I see different specs mentioned all over.

My initial thought was to do 50LW50Valor rest parry.

However, I am now seeing recommendations for this spec around the interweb.
50 Large Weapons 42 Shield 39 Valor rest parry

Will this be a better spec at low RR?

Best,
Klasker

grp or solo?
imo for both sceanarios 50 valor is a must have tbh... it is what makes the champ a champ
42 shield is only usefull when you are also the guard tank but imo champs are generally not well suited for that sooo 50 lw is also the way to go

some say "dude you need to swap 1h 2h in fight for max dmg and defense" but tbh your debuffs make your opponents hit like a wet noodle and therefore more defense is not really needed, at least i found it alot more easy to just stay on 2h with the same result = i win ( even vs rr10 warrior) xD
Mon 9 Nov 2020 9:55 AM by Klasker
inoeth wrote:
Mon 9 Nov 2020 9:48 AM
Klasker wrote:
Mon 9 Nov 2020 7:20 AM
Hi,

So I freshly dinged my champ to 50, and am trying to figure out the spec.

I see different specs mentioned all over.

My initial thought was to do 50LW50Valor rest parry.

However, I am now seeing recommendations for this spec around the interweb.
50 Large Weapons 42 Shield 39 Valor rest parry

Will this be a better spec at low RR?

Best,
Klasker

grp or solo?
imo for both sceanarios 50 valor is a must have tbh... it is what makes the champ a champ
42 shield is only usefull when you are also the guard tank but imo champs are generally not well suited for that sooo 50 lw is also the way to go

some say "dude you need to swap 1h 2h in fight for max dmg and defense" but tbh your debuffs make your opponents hit like a wet noodle and therefore more defense is not really needed, at least i found it alot more easy to just stay on 2h with the same result = i win ( even vs rr10 warrior) xD

Aight so basically you recommend 50LW50valor rest parry?
It is also what i find most fun tbh.
Mon 9 Nov 2020 3:28 PM by Kappu
Patron wrote:
Mon 9 Nov 2020 7:38 AM
Champs... Lol
Champion only extra debuff effectiveness has been reduced against buffs from items from 2 to 1.5
Lesser dmgtable, reduced weaponskill, less HP and no Firbolgs...

Your spec is valid! But id go 42 shield and numb n stun the enemys.
Have fun in Hib, the nerfed realm

This is a sad post... for one when you don't have buff bots running rampant it's a bit lopsided if a Champ is solo/small man and can completely negate your buff line... This isn't a nerf it's a balance issue for buff pots and honestly, you should congratulate them since you get to keep 2 levels of effectiveness depending on how you are playing. This is something they should also look at with Assassins and other classes with debuffs honestly.

The no Firbolgs comment is funny, but I'm sure there was some reason Mythic didn't want Firbolgs to be able to be Champs (although the only thing I can think of is just to not have an imbalance of races running around).

I would say all the realms have been nerfed pretty evenly and everyone is biased and usually focuses more on their realm/class when nerfs happen rather than looking at all the previous nerfs across the board. I'd say the devs have done a decent job so far and have been very fair in their adjustments.

Now that all that is said I think both specs are viable and it's about playstyle the real question is can you reliably back stun with an LW when soloing? If not then I'd shoot for the shield spec if so you can pry make due and most decent players can identify a Numb. I think specs come more down to how you intend to play the character also small man, zerg, solo, or 8 man?

Champ was fun times on live when I played even though I still prefered my Hero for some reason.
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